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From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 18:06 Adrian wrote: > "MasonS(a)BP.com" <MasonS(a)BP.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > >>> If it makes you any happier, perhaps you ought to buy this van - you >>> could then use the roads yourself, for work, without paying any VED >>> or fuel duty. Perfectly legally. >>> >>> http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/80500342.htm > >> I'd buy the bloody thing for him out of my own pocket, just to hear >> of him driving around Kent having paid no "road tax". > > 'course, it would still need a valid tax disc on display. Indeed it would. So if I drove through red traffic lights, on the pavement or the wrong way up a one way street I could be identified & prosecuted. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 18:06 Mr. Benn wrote: > "MasonS(a)BP.com" <MasonS(a)BP.com> wrote in > news:0394ee9e-6dec-42c1-8404-8f8ff412f659(a)g7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com: > >> On 13 Dec, 16:18, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled >>> happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> >>>> A multi millionaire cyclist still wouldn't have to pay a 'specific' >>>> fee before being able to use his cycle on a public road though >>>> would he? >>> >>> If it makes you any happier, perhaps you ought to buy this van - you >>> could then use the roads yourself, for work, without paying any VED >>> or fuel duty. Perfectly legally. >>> >>> http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/80500342.htm >> >> I'd buy the bloody thing for him out of my own pocket, just to hear >> of him driving around Kent having paid no "road tax". >> >> Priceless. > > If you give me your address Simon, I'll order you one of those > GBP1.35 high visibility vests that you seem so reluctant to wear if > it reduces the chace of you not getting hurt in an accident. Might clash with the pink lycra... -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 18:08 MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > On 13 Dec, 18:33, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> "Mas...(a)BP.com" <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote >> innews:23017181-2785-41ab-89e6-875c1a475935(a)g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com: >> >>> On 13 Dec, 17:49, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> If you give me your address Simon, I'll order you one of those >>>> GBP1.35 high visibility vests that you seem so reluctant to wear if >>>> it reduces the chace of you not getting hurt in an accident.- Hide >>>> quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> No need thanks - they don't work in the dark and our site stores has >>> 100's of them in stock. >>> I rely on my lights which are much more useful. >> >> They do work in the dark which is why the vests are made from a >> fluorescent >> and reflective fabric. They reflect light from oncoming vehicles. >> Why is >> that difficult for you to understand? They are a very useful >> compliment to >> cycle lighting and even the CTC recognise this. The only reason I >> don't >> wear one is that I never cycle at night. >> >> It's all down to whether you want to reduce the chance of getting >> involved >> in an accident at the end of the day. If your own arrogance leads >> you to >> believe that a reasonable and proven safety measure doesn't work, >> then you >> have yourself partially to blame if another road user doesn't see >> you in >> time to avoid a collision. A driver seeing you a second sooner could >> make >> all the difference between life and death if that matters to you. >> >> BTW, have you received your insurance payout yet for your most recent >> accident? > > Most recent? You mean the only one I have had in my life? > Next month, after a physio examines me for long term damage. > > I do have reflective stripes on my shoe covers, tights, shorts and > jacket for cars coming from the front and rear. > For side traffic this is no use, so I have a 1000 lumen flashing front > light and if they miss that there is no hope. So you admit you are a danger to innocent motorists? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 18:13 MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > On 13 Dec, 20:57, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >> Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > >>> Like I said before, which he conveniently ignored. A multi >>> millionaire cyclist could pay more in VAT on his new yacht than the >>> Medway Highwayman will ever pay in taxes in his whole life. That's >>> a low estimate. >> >> That last factette is possibly, perhaps even probably, true. >> >> What's its relevance?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > It means that he would have paid vastly more to the Govt tax pot that > pays for the roads, than the Medway Highwayman would pay in all of his > taxes in his lifetime. However, if Medway Man happens to meet said > cycling millionaire on the roads, he will instantly *assume* that > because he has a "tax disc" in his window, he therefore has the right > to be on the road, but the millionaire lacking said bit of paper is a > freeloading sponger, when the exact opposite is true. That's how > narrow (but sadly typical) his viewpoint is. But the imaginary millionaire cyclist still wouldn't have a window to put his tax disc in would he? Do try & think before you rant. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 13 Dec 2009 18:15
MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > If you add on enviromental damage, the vast costs incurred by the NHS > to treat accident victims, days off sick due to motoring injuries, > noise pollution, diseases caused by air pollution, reduced quality of > life caused by nearby roads and the attendant traffic, the cost of the > emergency services tied up with enforcing traffic laws and scraping > dead bodies off the road, the loss of a main breadwinner and many, > many other costs to society, the amount of tax taken from the average > driver does in no way pay for even a half of the entire cost to > society. The last time I checked it was about 25% of the cost. I agree. If cyclists didn't cause all those accidents it would be much better. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist |