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From: Adrian on 14 Dec 2009 04:42 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>> 'course, it would still need a valid tax disc on display. >>> Indeed it would. So if I drove through red traffic lights, on the >>> pavement or the wrong way up a one way street I could be identified & >>> prosecuted. >> Is it the presence or absence of a valid tax disc which enables that, >> then? > No, its the fact that number plates are part of the system. So the tax disc is irrelevant, then.
From: Adrian on 14 Dec 2009 04:43 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> No, not really. They would have to pay a fee to cover the >>> inconvenience of admin. >> Why does that apply to one form of zero-charge VED, yet not to others? > Because zero rated cars still have number plates, so the pokice can > check they have insurance & trace them when they break traffic laws. What's that got to do with the "inconvenience of admin" over issuing a zero-charge VED? >> Or do you think that all zero-charge VED should pay an "inconvenience >> of admin" fee? > No, they pay enough in VAT & fuel duty to cover it. Not necessarily. I've already pointed you to a for sale ad for a van which will cost you zero in VED, VAT & fuel duty.
From: Adrian on 14 Dec 2009 04:44 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>> If it makes you any happier, perhaps you ought to buy this van - you >>>> could then use the roads yourself, for work, without paying any VED >>>> or fuel duty. Perfectly legally. >>>> >>>> http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/80500342.htm >>> If I lived in France I might. >> Depends where in France, but - being in Kent - you wouldn't have very >> much further to travel to collect it than somebody in the North of >> France. >>> Are you trying out for idiot of the year? >> I'm not the one who doesn't seem to understand the concept of importing >> a vehicle. > I have no wish to do so. <shrug> Don't whinge about others not paying VED or fuel duty, then, when you pass up an opportunity to perfectly legally not do so.
From: NM on 14 Dec 2009 04:52 On 14 Dec, 01:46, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered > Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:34:48 GMT the perfect time to write: > > >Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > > >> Would it be OK if all of country's millions of bicycles, which would > >> be in VED band A (Fee = £0), got a stamped round bit of paper from the > >> Post Office and stuck it on their frames? Would that do it for you? I > >> wouldn't mind if it made van drivers gave me more respect on the road. > > >No, not really. They would have to pay a fee to cover the inconvenience of > >admin. I'd suggest a strip on top of the melon helmet, rather like a > >mohican, showing the number so they can be traced when they frequently > >ignore traffic rules. > > >You have to earn respect. If you want respect from van drivers, stop acting > >like a prat. > > You can have compulsory registration of foam hats if you want. > It's about time that something was done to discourage them. A better idea would be a small transfer fixed to the bike frame with a bar code that shows details of the cyclists usage permit (or you could call it a riders license) and the CED (cyclists excise duty) payment also you could incorporate a COI (certificate of inspection) that would have to be renewed annually by a responsible approved repair and maintainence facility. Wardens/Police could have barcode readers that work in a similar fashion to number plate recognition systems already fitted to police cars. These measures would go a long way to making cycling safer for all which is of course what we all want isn't it? In time all this will come, via the EU.
From: Adrian on 14 Dec 2009 05:03
NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > A better idea would be a small transfer fixed to the bike frame with a > bar code that shows details of the cyclists usage permit (or you could > call it a riders license) and the CED (cyclists excise duty) payment > also you could incorporate a COI (certificate of inspection) that would > have to be renewed annually by a responsible approved repair and > maintainence facility. Wardens/Police could have barcode readers that > work in a similar fashion to number plate recognition systems already > fitted to police cars. > > These measures would go a long way to making cycling safer for all which > is of course what we all want isn't it? A bike MOT would also increase business for local bike shops, of course. > In time all this will come, via the EU. So which other EU countries already run such a scheme? |