From: MasonS on
On 16 Dec, 17:41, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote in message
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> news:ffa88b07-4b6b-4702-b748-3c7f11617ec2(a)e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > What reputation do white van men have with drivers AND cyclists?
>
> In the reputed order of society, they lie one place above taxi-drivers and
> one place below child abusers.
>
> HTH

THE TOP FIVE WORST DRIVERS ON THE ROAD (according to drivers)
Youguv poll. 70000 drivers polled.

1. School run drivers
2. White van drivers
3. Taxi drivers
4. 4 by 4 drivers
5. Motorcyclists / Lorry drivers (joint fifth)
From: JNugent on
MasonS(a)BP.com wrote:
> On 16 Dec, 17:41, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>> <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ffa88b07-4b6b-4702-b748-3c7f11617ec2(a)e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> What reputation do white van men have with drivers AND cyclists?
>> In the reputed order of society, they lie one place above taxi-drivers and
>> one place below child abusers.
>>
>> HTH
>
> THE TOP FIVE WORST DRIVERS ON THE ROAD (according to drivers)
> Youguv poll. 70000 drivers polled.
>
> 1. School run drivers
> 2. White van drivers
> 3. Taxi drivers
> 4. 4 by 4 drivers
> 5. Motorcyclists / Lorry drivers (joint fifth)

Did the poll give any clue as to what was meant by "bad driving" and its
comparative/superlative?

Or was it totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational belief of
some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children to school,
drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for living, etc, etc, etc?
From: MasonS on
On 16 Dec, 17:51, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
> Mas...(a)BP.com wrote:
> > On 16 Dec, 17:41, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:ffa88b07-4b6b-4702-b748-3c7f11617ec2(a)e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com....
>
> >>> What reputation do white van men have with drivers AND cyclists?
> >> In the reputed order of society, they lie one place above taxi-drivers and
> >> one place below child abusers.
>
> >> HTH
>
> > THE TOP FIVE WORST DRIVERS ON THE ROAD (according to drivers)
> > Youguv poll. 70000 drivers polled.
>
> > 1. School run drivers
> > 2. White van drivers
> > 3. Taxi drivers
> > 4. 4 by 4 drivers
> > 5. Motorcyclists / Lorry drivers (joint fifth)
>
> Did the poll give any clue as to what was meant by "bad driving" and its
> comparative/superlative?
>
> Or was it totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational belief of
> some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children to school,
> drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for  living, etc, etc, etc?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Quote:

Motorists’ stereotypes about other road users are causing erratic
driving behaviour on UK roads, according to new research from Direct
Line.

The research revealed that British drivers tend to judge other
motorists by the types of vehicles they are at the wheel of before
seeing them drive. Almost three quarters (73 per cent) of motorists
admit to behaving differently depending on who is in front of them.

Common ways of reacting included driving aggressively (11 per cent),
driving slowly (22 per cent), refusing to give way (11 per cent) and
driving badly to deliberately irritate (four per cent) in a conscious
attempt to aggravate drivers of specific cars.

The survey interviewed motorists nation-wide about who they believed
were the worst motorists in the UK and surprisingly school run drivers
(18 per cent) were voted the worst by almost one in five drivers.
They were followed by ‘white van man’ (17 per cent) and taxi drivers
(14 per cent) in positions two and three respectively.

The top five most annoying habits cited were:
1. Driving rudely (i.e. tailgating, refusing to let other drivers out)
2. Driving carelessly
3. Repeatedly switching lane to find the quickest route
4. Intimidating behaviour (i.e. flashing to get past, shouting etc)
5. Excessive speeding
From: JNugent on
MasonS(a)BP.com wrote:

> JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:
>> Mas...(a)BP.com wrote:
>>> "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote:

>>>>> What reputation do white van men have with drivers AND cyclists?
>>>> In the reputed order of society, they lie one place above taxi-drivers and
>>>> one place below child abusers.
>>>> HTH

>>> THE TOP FIVE WORST DRIVERS ON THE ROAD (according to drivers)
>>> Youguv poll. 70000 drivers polled.
>>> 1. School run drivers
>>> 2. White van drivers
>>> 3. Taxi drivers
>>> 4. 4 by 4 drivers
>>> 5. Motorcyclists / Lorry drivers (joint fifth)

>> Did the poll give any clue as to what was meant by "bad driving" and its
>> comparative/superlative?
>> Or was it totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational belief of
>> some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children to school,
>> drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for living, etc, etc, etc?

> Quote:

> Motorists� stereotypes about other road users are causing erratic
> driving behaviour on UK roads, according to new research from Direct
> Line.

> The research revealed that British drivers tend to judge other
> motorists by the types of vehicles they are at the wheel of before
> seeing them drive. Almost three quarters (73 per cent) of motorists
> admit to behaving differently depending on who is in front of them.

> Common ways of reacting included driving aggressively (11 per cent),
> driving slowly (22 per cent), refusing to give way (11 per cent) and
> driving badly to deliberately irritate (four per cent) in a conscious
> attempt to aggravate drivers of specific cars.

> The survey interviewed motorists nation-wide about who they believed
> were the worst motorists in the UK and surprisingly school run drivers
> (18 per cent) were voted the worst by almost one in five drivers.
> They were followed by �white van man� (17 per cent) and taxi drivers
> (14 per cent) in positions two and three respectively.

> The top five most annoying habits cited were:
> 1. Driving rudely (i.e. tailgating, refusing to let other drivers out)
> 2. Driving carelessly
> 3. Repeatedly switching lane to find the quickest route
> 4. Intimidating behaviour (i.e. flashing to get past, shouting etc)
> 5. Excessive speeding

Right...

So the poll was totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational
belief of some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children to
school, drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for living, etc.
From: MasonS on
On 16 Dec, 18:01, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:

>
> Right...
>
> So the poll was totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational
> belief of some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children to
> school, drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for  living, etc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

One wonders how these 70000 people could have all gathered these
"irrational beliefs" en bloc.
Either they all lied in the survey, or gained their opinions out on
real roads and I don't think they ever stated that they "shouldn't be
allowed" to use the roads, they were merely asked who were the "worst
drivers" in their opinion based on their experience.
--
Simon Mason