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From: The Medway Handyman on 17 Dec 2009 12:37 Happi Monday wrote: > JNugent wrote: > >>>> >>>> It wasn't far from Kent that I heard it. >>> >>> Wow! That's a powerful word if you can clearly recall where you were >>> when you first heard it. >> >> Not only that, I can remember who first used it in my presence. > > Why don't you ask Santa for a life for Xmas? Someone with a detailed interest in the history & origin of the words we use everyday shows a much greater intellect than an overgrown kid on a push bike. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 17 Dec 2009 12:38 Happi Monday wrote: > JNugent wrote: > >> Whoosh. >> > > > Isn't this about the saddest, stupidest, most juvenile and pathetic > thing ever said on usenet? > > Geezus!!!! Which part of "Whoosh" are you not bright enough to understand? -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 17 Dec 2009 12:51 Phil W Lee wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:36:00 GMT the perfect time to write: > >> Phil W Lee wrote: >>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered >>> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:44:14 GMT the perfect time to write: >>> >>>> Peter Grange wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:39:40 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >>>>> <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Peter Grange wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:54:24 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >>>>>>> <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter Grange wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:39:32 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >>>>>>>>> <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrian wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> >>>>>>>>>>> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it be OK if all of country's millions of bicycles, >>>>>>>>>>>>> which would be in VED band A (Fee = �0), got a stamped >>>>>>>>>>>>> round bit of paper from the Post Office and stuck it on >>>>>>>>>>>>> their frames? Would that do it for you? I wouldn't mind if >>>>>>>>>>>>> it made van drivers gave me more respect on the road. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, not really. They would have to pay a fee to cover the >>>>>>>>>>>> inconvenience of admin. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why does that apply to one form of zero-charge VED, yet not >>>>>>>>>>> to others? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Because zero rated cars still have number plates, so the >>>>>>>>>> pokice can check they have insurance & trace them when they >>>>>>>>>> break traffic laws. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or do you think that all zero-charge VED should pay an >>>>>>>>>>> "inconvenience of admin" fee? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, they pay enough in VAT & fuel duty to cover it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hang on, we had the VAT argument already. In your strange >>>>>>>>> world VAT on bikes doesn't count, so wht does it on cars? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Because its a hell of a lot more innit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what was your argument against the millionaire paying more >>>>>>> tax then? >>>>>> >>>>>> The percentage of VAT is the same, but 15% on a �100 push bike >>>>>> and 15% on a �10,000 car are vastly different sums of money. >>>>> >>>>> You really have no idea do you. I would no more ride a �100 bike >>>>> than you would use a Trabant van to run your business. Try and >>>>> stay on the same planet. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't have an argument about millionaire cyclists. >>>>> >>>>> Except to say that a motorist has more right to be on the road >>>>> than a cyclist because he (in the majority of cases) pays more >>>>> vat than the cyclist, but the millionaire who paid more vat than >>>>> the motorist doesn't have an equally greater right than the >>>>> motorist. >>>> >>>> Do stop making things up. Everyone whos pays road tax has the >>>> right to use the road. Those who don't pay it, don't. >>> >>> The law is almost exactly the reverse of that. >>> Not that the law seems to mean anything to you. >> >> Would you like to elaborate on that? What crime are you going to >> accuse me of next? > > Cyclists, like horse riders and pedestrians, have the right to use the > roads. No they don't. Horse riders and pedestrians don't use vehicles. Cyclists do. > Motorists have no such right, only the ability to obtain a permit > (licence) to use the roads, which can be withdrawn if they use it > irresponsibly. Simple concepts are clearly beyond you idiot boy. A licence has nothing to do with paying to use the road. Its a record that you have passed a test of competance, that you have been trained in the correct way of driving a motor vehicle. Cyclists of course don't have such training & proof of competance. Motorists pay Road Tax (as the man on the Clapham omnibus would understand it) giving them the right to use the roads they pay for. > If it were a right, it wouldn't be possible to ban someone from > driving, to bar them on medical grounds, or to deny them a licence > until they can show they can drive. Cyclists, who don't pay to use the roads, can't be banned for riding on pavements, the wrong way up one way streets, ignoring traffic lights or colliding with pedestrians. And of course don't have to prove they can drive a cycle safely, or have insurance. -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: The Medway Handyman on 17 Dec 2009 12:53 Louis Genou wrote: > On 16 Dec, 19:36, "The Medway Handyman" > <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> What crime are you going to accuse me >> of next? > > Sadly being a worthless ignorant snivelling fuckpig in a built-up area > during the hours of darkness is not yet against the law, but that may > well change after the workers and soldiers have stormed the > Westminster Gasworks. Oh dear. Have I said something to upset you diddums? -- Dave - The Tax Paying Motorist
From: Steve Firth on 17 Dec 2009 13:12
Happi Monday <happi(a)munday.com> wrote: > > Isn't this about the saddest, stupidest, most juvenile and pathetic > thing ever said on usenet? > > Geezus!!!! Yes, I agree with you, you just said about the saddest, stupidest, most juvenile and pathetic thing I've seen on Usenet. |