From: JNugent on 18 Dec 2009 12:20
Phil W Lee wrote:
> Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> "The Medway Handyman":
>>>>>> Cyclists, like horse riders and pedestrians, have the right to use
>>>>>> the roads.
>>>>> No they don't.
>>>> This is, in fact and in law, incorrect
>>> No doubt you can back this up with some facts?
>> <shrug> It's true.
>> Motor vehicles & their operators need a licence - which can be withdrawn
>> - to use the road.
>> Cyclists, pedestrians, horses & riders do not. They have a legal right to
>> use the road (with the explicit exception of certain sections of road)
>> You might not like it, but it's undeniably true.
> And is at the root of why they can't be made to pay for it.
> This is a fundamental part of much tax law, including personal tax
> allowances and the zero vat rating on basic food.
> You cannot tax things that are rights.
Well, not unless you pass a law to render a right (like using the road with a
vehicle) something less than a right and subject to licensing and taxation.
It was done for vehicles (there being no innate characteristics of motor
vehicles which require it) and the process could be extended to *anything*,
certainly including cycling and even to walking along certain routes.
Don't even count on being allowed to breathe without charge if we were
unlucky enough to get another five years of Brown.
From: MasonS on 18 Dec 2009 12:25
Apparently, the Medway Highwayman and his big butch Kent chums have
been floored by a few flakes of snow as per bleeding usual. Jeez, up
here in Yorkshire I cycled 25 miles to work and back in the teeth of a
North Sea gale with drifting snow as normal . These southern Jessies
then have the laughable cheek to poke fun at overgrown kids on toy
bikes wearing pink girly clothes, while they are left impotent in
their warm tin boxes waiting for the AA man to come and rescue them.
From: JNugent on 18 Dec 2009 12:39
> Apparently, the Medway Highwayman and his big butch Kent chums have
> been floored by a few flakes of snow as per bleeding usual. Jeez, up
> here in Yorkshire I cycled 25 miles to work and back in the teeth of a
> North Sea gale with drifting snow as normal . These southern Jessies
> then have the laughable cheek to poke fun at overgrown kids on toy
> bikes wearing pink girly clothes, while they are left impotent in
> their warm tin boxes waiting for the AA man to come and rescue them.
We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean
the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for
tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken
bottle, if we were lucky!
And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.
From: Happi Monday on 18 Dec 2009 13:39
> That was a mistake on my part.
> The self-employed do not in fact pay a graduated amount of National
> "Insurance" as well as their flat rate, income tax and Class 4 liabilities.
> But, OTOH, they are not entitled to the full range of social security
> contributory benefits (so should be paying less NI than an employed
> earner earning the same gross income in any case).
You're beginning to look like the typical know-all that, in fact, knows
From: Happi Monday on 18 Dec 2009 13:43
The Medway Handyman wrote:
> If you ever need a job, a village near me is looking for a new idiot.
Oh, when did you resign?