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From: johnwright ""john" on 25 Dec 2009 08:25 JNugent wrote: > MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: >> On 16 Dec, 17:41, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>> <Mas...(a)BP.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:ffa88b07-4b6b-4702-b748-3c7f11617ec2(a)e7g2000vbi.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>>> What reputation do white van men have with drivers AND cyclists? >>> In the reputed order of society, they lie one place above >>> taxi-drivers and >>> one place below child abusers. >>> >>> HTH >> >> THE TOP FIVE WORST DRIVERS ON THE ROAD (according to drivers) >> Youguv poll. 70000 drivers polled. >> >> 1. School run drivers >> 2. White van drivers >> 3. Taxi drivers >> 4. 4 by 4 drivers >> 5. Motorcyclists / Lorry drivers (joint fifth) > > Did the poll give any clue as to what was meant by "bad driving" and its > comparative/superlative? > > Or was it totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational > belief of some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children > to school, drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for living, etc, etc, > etc? Indeed, there is a misuse of data here right at the root. It falls down on subjectivity to start with. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: MasonS on 25 Dec 2009 11:23 On 25 Dec, 11:30, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > > He's shown ignorance of just about everything he's posted, from basic > physics to the contents of the Highway Code, and has managed to place > himself in a position where he daren't ever knock over a cyclist due > to the clear evidence he has provided of intent. He's already stated that he is simply a wind up merchant. When he admitted that fact, I stopped dealing with him as it became obvious that he deliberately talks garbage in order to wind people (mainly cyclists) up. What made me laugh was that he called me a sad f***** for photographing ungritted snow bound cycle lanes after he stated that a gritter can't possibly have missed them - (he was proved wrong yet again). This insult came from a guy who trawls Google at midnight on Xmas Day looking for non stories about imaginary little old ladies *almost* getting knocked down by Olympic class riders careering down high streets up and down the land at 30mph. How sad a case does that make him? He's never going to see or talk sense, so do what I did and just ignore him. -- Simon Mason
From: MasonS on 26 Dec 2009 16:09 On 26 Dec, 20:18, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Oh do stop it, my ribs are still hurting with laughing at you. So desperate > to win a point your went round on your little push bike - photographing > snow! Ha ha ha! Wrong yet again - did you not spot the top of the dashboard and wipers? http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4845/013sy.jpg Not very observant are we? I was in my car going that way anyway - hardly any extra effort was required. > Your posts however are timed at 02:07, 02:32 and 11:30 on Xmas Day, when > any normal person is enjoying the festive season with friends & family. I was at work, so the beauty of it was that I was actually getting *paid* to take the mickey out of you! Plus a Xmas Day bonus on top! -- Simon Mason
From: johnwright ""john" on 27 Dec 2009 08:09 MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > On 16 Dec, 18:01, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >> Right... >> >> So the poll was totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational >> belief of some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their children to >> school, drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for living, etc.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > One wonders how these 70000 people could have all gathered these > "irrational beliefs" en bloc. > Either they all lied in the survey, or gained their opinions out on > real roads and I don't think they ever stated that they "shouldn't be > allowed" to use the roads, they were merely asked who were the "worst > drivers" in their opinion based on their experience. The whole thing is too subjective - its easy enough to design a poll from which you can estimate a population behaviour - basic statistics this - but you do need a transferable parameter to measure. One that you understand as well as me and in the same terms. You may have a totally different understanding of "Worst" from me. What does it mean? -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: johnwright ""john" on 27 Dec 2009 08:26
Happi Monday wrote: > JNugent wrote: >> mileburner wrote: >>> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message >>> news:LP2dnS_bW-O_g7TWnZ2dnUVZ8nli4p2d(a)pipex.net... >>> >>>> Or was it totally meaningless, because based only on the irrational >>>> belief of some that people shouldn't be allowed to drive their >>>> children to school, drive a van for a living, drive a taxi for >>>> living, etc, etc, etc? >>> >>> These things are usually based a very simple measure, and in this >>> case it is the opinion that said drivers often drive like c**ts. It's >>> a bit like "we asked 100 people... and our survey said: ..." >> >> Like I said... irrational. >> >> Not every driver on the school run *is* a bad driver. >> >> Not every taxi-driver *is* a bad driver. >> >> Not every van driver *is* a bad driver. >> >> Not every BMW owner *is* a bad driver. >> >> But you get the point, I'm sure. > > Point? I didn't get it. Just change "Not every" to "nearly all" and > you're there. Back to school with you if you think this survey means anything at all. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright |