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From: SW on 1 Dec 2009 10:31 On 1 Dec, 00:35, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Squashme wrote: > > On 30 Nov, 19:11, SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 30 Nov, 01:02, "The Medway Handyman" > > >> <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>> Peter Grange wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:25:03 +0000, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve > >>>> Firth) wrote: > > >>>>> Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >>>>>>> Here's something you could try to test the theory. Stop the next > >>>>>>> pavement cyclist that you see and ask them to ride where they > >>>>>>> belong. > > >>>>>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get his > >>>>>> hulking great car off the pavement and on the street where it > >>>>>> belongs. > > >>>>> When I see a driver driving down the pavement at 25mph I shall > >>>>> tell them off. > > >>>> Good luck with stopping him. > > >>> Wouldn't need to. Cars have registration plates & can be easily > >>> identified if they break the law. Cyclists don't, because they > >>> don't pay to use the roads. > > >> Unless they pay council tax. > > > And income tax. > > Of course ukt regulars just "know" somehow that cyclists (sorry, > > "lycra loons") do not pay taxes. > > But the sponging freeloaders don't pay a specific road tax do they? > Nobody does. 5.2m of council tax was spent on the local highway network last year, so I am clearly already paying to use the roads. SW
From: Adrian on 1 Dec 2009 10:33 SW <allbrankeepsyougoing(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > 5.2m of council tax was spent on the local highway network last year You might like to look at where local authorities get their funding from. Clue: Not all is council tax.
From: Adrian on 1 Dec 2009 10:33 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> And Council Tax payers. > Nope. The road maintenance budget comes from central government. Only trunk routes.
From: Peter Grange on 1 Dec 2009 10:35 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:24:11 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >In article <7f84591c-a204-4a8b-b2ca-2f3d558f28f8 >@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, SW says... >> >> On 1 Dec, 00:14, "The Medway Handyman" >> <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> > Cyclists are the problem, they & their poxy cycle lanes cause delays & >> > traffic jams for motorists who put their hands in their pockets. >> >> You mean those long tailbacks of cars I overtake on my bike every day >> are caused by cyclists ?! > >Certainly the case in Leeds and Hull where dual carriageway roads were >turned into single lane ones in order to provide a cycle lane which >mostly goes unused. I'm probably on your side on that one, although I don't know the roads you refer to. Lots of people post here to point out that as cyclists often aren't consulted before many cycle lanes/tracks are built, many are mostly unused. If some time was spent to ensure the cycle lane is built to make it useful for cyclists and convenient for other road users the money would be better spent (wherever it comes from). The problem is that they are built to tick a box. Total mileage adds to the fulfillment of a target whether the "facility" is any good or not. -- Pete
From: SW on 1 Dec 2009 10:36
On 1 Dec, 15:23, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > In article <9d33e176-16e0-4113-8190- > 918d191b1...(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, SW says... > > > > That is a weak argument, import duty on a foreign manufactured bike or > > > bike parts allows rights to use the UK road system paid and maintained > > > by vehicle users. FFS. > > > And Council Tax payers. > > Nope. The road maintenance budget comes from central government. > From my local council's budget report: COUNCIL INVESTMENT Better roads and pavements; a capital investment of £5.2m in the highway network, over and above any support from government. SW |