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From: Peter Grange on 1 Dec 2009 10:43 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:54:28 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >In article <fus9h59nvqpsehu8gv4j8tjbo1n9sei71v(a)4ax.com>, Peter Grange >says... >> >> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:39:53 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >In article <thq9h59v48poocktlfvm2objdp7orclqs3(a)4ax.com>, Peter Grange >> >says... >> >= >> >> More bollocks. >> > >> >So what direct costs do you pay to maintain the roads, bearing in mind >> >that taxation on motor vehicles is eight times the road maintenance and >> >buiding budget? >> >> Income tax, VAT, VED on my car, to name but 3. > >As revenue from motor vehicles covers the costs of the roads more than >eightfold, what proportion of your income tax and VAT you pay goes to >subsidise the roads? I have no idea. If you ask your MP nicely he'll ask a question in Parliament to find out if you really want to know. One thing I am certain of though. The "eightfold" argument is a fallacy. VED is a tax imposed on someone who wants to run a car. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the cost of building or maintaining the roads. -- Pete
From: Peter Grange on 1 Dec 2009 10:46 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:54:34 -0800 (PST), SW <allbrankeepsyougoing(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On 1 Dec, 00:32, "The Medway Handyman" ><davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >> 100% of cyclists are uninsured >> > >Are you *sure* about that or are you talking bollocks again ? > >SW You get one guess ;-) -- Pete
From: SW on 1 Dec 2009 10:57 On 1 Dec, 15:33, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > > > 5.2m of council tax was spent on the local highway network last year > > You might like to look at where local authorities get their funding from. > Clue: Not all is council tax. I never claimed it was - the point is that all council tax payers are making a contribution to funding of local highways. Motorists contribute more which seems fair given that cars cause more wear and tear. SW
From: Adrian on 1 Dec 2009 11:01 SW <allbrankeepsyougoing(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> > 5.2m of council tax was spent on the local highway network last year >> You might like to look at where local authorities get their funding >> from. Clue: Not all is council tax. > I never claimed it was - the point is that all council tax payers are > making a contribution to funding of local highways. Yes, they do. But not 5.2m/year. > Motorists contribute more which seems fair given that cars cause more > wear and tear. Well, we _could_ get into the detail of relative road loadings of various vehicle types, but I don't think Conor would appreciate that very much.
From: Peter Grange on 1 Dec 2009 11:06
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:23:20 -0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >In article <9d33e176-16e0-4113-8190- >918d191b121e(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, SW says... > >> > That is a weak argument, import duty on a foreign manufactured bike or >> > bike parts allows rights to use the UK road system paid and maintained >> > by vehicle users. FFS. >> >> And Council Tax payers. >> >Nope. The road maintenance budget comes from central government. And from central taxation too, not one particular tax. -- Pete |