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From: Keitht on 2 Dec 2009 11:10 Conor wrote: > In article <h6mdne0ffun_yIvWnZ2dnUVZ8ixi4p2d(a)bt.com>, Keitht says... >> Conor wrote: >>> In article <D9SdnfxCJ5g0_4jWnZ2dnUVZ8qpi4p2d(a)bt.com>, Keitht says... >>>> Conor wrote: >>>>> In article <hf2fic$col$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mileburner says... >>>>> >>>>>> Although on the local housing estate where plenty of the residents are >>>>>> unemployed and live on benefits and do not pay council tax, they still >>>>>> manage to run untaxed cars on the road. >>>>> How do you know they're unemployed? Are you basing it solely on the >>>>> virtue that they live on a council estate? >>>>> >>>> and this from someone who can only equate 'caravan' to 'gypsy'? >>>> >>> Where did I do that? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> your alzheimer's is getting critical > > You failure to provide proof is noted. > > Twas yourself that equated 'caravan' to 'gypsy' - not me. Check your posts from a few weeks back. -- Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle
From: mileburner on 2 Dec 2009 11:14 "Tony Dragon" <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:3sudne5yWOD4EYvWnZ2dnUVZ8vhi4p2d(a)bt.com... > mileburner wrote: >> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7nn96lF3mvr14U4(a)mid.individual.net... >>> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >>> like they were saying: >>> >>>>>> Even one example is enough to make you a liar. I have 3rd party >>>>>> insurance for my cycling, as do all members of CTC. >>>>> And in the event of an accident, if you chose to ride off without >>>>> giving any information, how easy would it be to trace you? >>>> It would be (in the vast majority of cases) rather daft for the cyclist >>>> to ride off without exchanging details with the driver as it would not >>>> help when the cyclist decides to make a compensation claim. >>> Let's - just for a moment - assume the cyclist caused the collison... >> >> Why assume the least likely option? > > Why not assume that the collision was with a pedestrian, & the cyclist > decided to leave (it does happen). I would guess (and I am only guessing here) that most pedestrian/cyclist accidents happen on the pavement. That being the case the cyclist should be shouldered off the pavement and under the wheels of the next large vehicle and be deemed to be at fault. Seriously though, pavement cycling should against the law.
From: Steve Firth on 2 Dec 2009 11:28 mileburner <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > Why is it the cyclists who seem to have a complete inability to > > correctly apportion blame? > > Possibly because cyclists tend to see safety as more important than blame. No, cyclists see whining on about safety as important. However they don't have a clue about safety. Otherwise they would not ignore red lights, place their safety above that of pedestrians, and cycle down the blind sides of large vehicles. I'll take your pronouncements about safety seriously the day that cyclists place safety above their own convenience.
From: Conor on 2 Dec 2009 12:33 In article <X-mdnZNOfpjnDIvWnZ2dnUVZ8tRi4p2d(a)bt.com>, Keitht says... > > Conor wrote: > > In article <h6mdne0ffun_yIvWnZ2dnUVZ8ixi4p2d(a)bt.com>, Keitht says... > >> Conor wrote: > >>> In article <D9SdnfxCJ5g0_4jWnZ2dnUVZ8qpi4p2d(a)bt.com>, Keitht says... > >>>> Conor wrote: > >>>>> In article <hf2fic$col$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mileburner says... > >>>>> > >>>>>> Although on the local housing estate where plenty of the residents are > >>>>>> unemployed and live on benefits and do not pay council tax, they still > >>>>>> manage to run untaxed cars on the road. > >>>>> How do you know they're unemployed? Are you basing it solely on the > >>>>> virtue that they live on a council estate? > >>>>> > >>>> and this from someone who can only equate 'caravan' to 'gypsy'? > >>>> > >>> Where did I do that? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> your alzheimer's is getting critical > > > > You failure to provide proof is noted. > > > > > Twas yourself that equated 'caravan' to 'gypsy' - not me. > Check your posts from a few weeks back. I know what I wrote. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: Adrian on 2 Dec 2009 12:40
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Why is it the cyclists who seem to have a complete inability to >> correctly apportion blame? > Possibly because cyclists tend to see safety as more important than > blame. He who does not learn the lessons of history is doomed to repeat them. If you don't understand why a collision occurred, how are you going to know how to avoid it happening again? If you know how it occurred, you know who is to blame for it. Or, to turn it around... If you don't care about who is to blame for it, you cannot know how it occurred, so you cannot know how to avoid it happening again. > But I am only guessing. Yup. You are. And that won't help _anybody_. |