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From: Keitht on 2 Dec 2009 16:06 The Medway Handyman wrote: > They clog up the roads & break all the rules. > 'Kin ell - how BIG are these bikes? -- Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle
From: Keitht on 2 Dec 2009 16:12 Squashme wrote: > On 2 Dec, 16:28, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >> mileburner <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> Why is it the cyclists who seem to have a complete inability to >>>> correctly apportion blame? >>> Possibly because cyclists tend to see safety as more important than blame. >> No, cyclists see whining on about safety as important. However they >> don't have a clue about safety. Otherwise they would not ignore red >> lights, place their safety above that of pedestrians, and cycle down the >> blind sides of large vehicles. >> >> I'll take your pronouncements about safety seriously the day that >> cyclists place safety above their own convenience. > > I certainly find being dead rather inconvenient. Unless it's for tax purposes. You are Hotblack Desiato AICMFP -- Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle
From: Adrian on 2 Dec 2009 16:34 Peter Grange <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>Every normal person (which clearly excludes cyclists) knows what road >>>>tax is and that you have to pay it to use the roads. Cyclists don't >>>>pay it. >>> I'm a cyclist and I pay it. Discuss. >>There's nothing to discuss. >> >>You don't pay VED in your capacity as a cyclist. Simple. End of. You pay >>it in your capacity as the keeper of a motor vehicle. >> >>The only way in which you can possibly construe otherwise is to assume >>that "cyclist" is somehow pervasive and inherent to your every action, >>which is clearly complete and utter bollocks. > Read what the prat said. "Cyclists don't pay it". I'm a cyclist. I pay > it. Read what I said. You don't pay it _as a cyclist_. Unless, of course, you think you're a cyclist whilst you drive your car, brush your teeth, do the washing up?
From: Steve Firth on 2 Dec 2009 16:40 Squashme <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I certainly find being dead rather inconvenient. You're brain-dead that doesn't count.
From: johnwright ""john" on 2 Dec 2009 16:50
soup wrote: > The Medway Handyman wrote: >> soup wrote: >>> Yes use the vehicle(on the road) not use the road. >> The difference being? > > It is for using the vehicle not the road . > > Yes I know you can use the vehicle without taking it on the road but for > 99.9% of cases... > >> They clog up the roads & break all the rules. > > Clog up the roads, cyclists? That will be the reason motorists (at the > time) say they are waiting, lawfully, in a jam of cars when a cyclist > (again at the time) shoots up the inside (left in the UK), illegally, of > the queue of cars. > Pretty broad brush there Dave I have never (to my knowledge) broke "all > the rules" and when I am on a bike I consider myself a cyclist. > > >> Every normal person (which clearly excludes cyclists) knows what road >> tax is and that you have to pay it to use the roads. > > Once again, YOU PAY TO USE THE VEHICLE, NOT FOR THE ROAD. > You can say you pay for the roads as often as you like it still is not > true. You pay to use the vehicle on the public road. There are plenty of vehicels that never venture on the road and don't pay any tax whatever you call it. The form in front of me nicely sidesteps the question by calling it a tax disc. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright |