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From: dan on 3 Dec 2009 05:07 Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes: > Peter Grange <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much > like they were saying: >> I am a motorist and a cyclist. > > Yes, you are. At different times. As am I. I am also a pedestrian. But > not at the same time as being either a cyclist or a motorist. [...] > But you do not pay VED as a cyclist, and you do not pay VED as a > pedestrian. You pay VED as the keeper of a vehicle - a subset of > "motorist". This argument is logically inconsistent. If I am only a cyclist when cycling and only a motorist when motoring, and only a pedestrian when walking, yet I am the keeper of a vehicle *all the time* (it still needs VED even when I'm not using it, if it is parked on the public road), keepers of vehicles cannot be a subset of motorists. The most you could claim is that they are people who may also at times be assumed to be motorists. -dan
From: mileburner on 3 Dec 2009 05:06 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:xEDRm.11220$Ym4.4167(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > mileburner wrote: >> The Medway Handyman wrote: >> >> Despite your weasel words, motorists have to pay VED >>> (known to everyone as Road Tax) in order to use the roads. What >>> specifically do cyclists have to pay in order to use the roads? >> >> Nothing! Because we do not pollute and damage the roads. > > But you do use them and clog them up, so you should pay more. I have yet to see roads clogged up by bikes. > But at last you have stopped lying & admitted you are a freeloading > sponging cyclist. Freeloading and sponging because we use what are entitled to use? Are pedestrians freeloading sponging too?
From: Adrian on 3 Dec 2009 05:08 "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > I am a cyclist and I pay VED. Not as a cyclist, you don't. > Is that so hard for a non-cycling motorist to understand? Do you buy bike bits as a motorist, too?
From: Adrian on 3 Dec 2009 05:09 dan(a)telent.net gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > keepers of vehicles cannot be a subset of motorists. Of course they can. Or have you never heard of somebody driving a car of which they are not the registered keeper? Hire car, company car, works van?
From: mileburner on 3 Dec 2009 05:10
"The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:eIDRm.11222$Ym4.9939(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > David Lang & Steve Firth have too much common sense to ride a bike. And therefore unlikely to understand much about riding a bike either. |