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From: johnwright ""john" on 3 Dec 2009 12:22 mileburner wrote: > "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:7nppi2F3n4836U18(a)mid.individual.net... >> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >> like they were saying: >> >>> I guess though there are a lot of motorists who do not understand what >>> VED is, and why the government levy it. >> "Because they can" >> >> Strange how other countries manage to provide considerably better road >> networks without charging a VED equivalent. > > Perhaps this has something to do with there being little correlation between > road building and VED. The Government does not believe in ring fencing. If you remember, when the truckers were campaigning for a reduction in fuel tax, Tony Blair said "Which school or hospital do you want me to close?" This demonstrates the lack of linkage. One can compare amounts but that is all. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: johnwright ""john" on 3 Dec 2009 12:23 SW wrote: > On 2 Dec, 21:50, johnwright <""john\"@no spam here.com"> wrote: >> You pay to use the vehicle on the public road. > > Exactly. Use of the road itself is completely free. Yes, cyclists do it. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: johnwright ""john" on 3 Dec 2009 12:25 The Medway Handyman wrote: > soup wrote: >> The Medway Handyman wrote: >>> soup wrote: >>>> Yes use the vehicle(on the road) not use the road. >>> The difference being? >> It is for using the vehicle not the road . > > No, its for using the vehicle on the roads. You can SORN the vehicle itself > if you don't wish to use it on the road. > >>> They clog up the roads & break all the rules. >> Clog up the roads, cyclists? That will be the reason motorists (at the >> time) say they are waiting, lawfully, in a jam of cars when a cyclist >> (again at the time) shoots up the inside (left in the UK), illegally, >> of the queue of cars. >> Pretty broad brush there Dave I have never (to my knowledge) broke >> "all the rules" and when I am on a bike I consider myself a cyclist. > > Yes clog up the roads. The prats round here drive 4 abreast on narrow roads > so you can't pass them. >>> Every normal person (which clearly excludes cyclists) knows what >>> road tax is and that you have to pay it to use the roads. >> Once again, YOU PAY TO USE THE VEHICLE, NOT FOR THE ROAD. >> You can say you pay for the roads as often as you like it still is >> not true. > > Bollox. You can SORN the vehicle if you don't want to use it on the road. > The moment it touches the road you have to have a valid tax disc. That's all one can really call it, since that's what the DVLA call it. We know its VED and it used to be Road Tax. -- I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore ?John Wright
From: JNugent on 3 Dec 2009 12:28 johnwright > wrote: > The Medway Handyman wrote: >> soup wrote: >>> The Medway Handyman wrote: >>>> soup wrote: >>>>> Yes use the vehicle(on the road) not use the road. >>>> The difference being? >>> It is for using the vehicle not the road . >> No, its for using the vehicle on the roads. You can SORN the vehicle >> itself if you don't wish to use it on the road. >>>> They clog up the roads & break all the rules. >>> Clog up the roads, cyclists? That will be the reason motorists (at the >>> time) say they are waiting, lawfully, in a jam of cars when a cyclist >>> (again at the time) shoots up the inside (left in the UK), illegally, >>> of the queue of cars. >>> Pretty broad brush there Dave I have never (to my knowledge) broke >>> "all the rules" and when I am on a bike I consider myself a cyclist. >> Yes clog up the roads. The prats round here drive 4 abreast on narrow >> roads so you can't pass them. >>>> Every normal person (which clearly excludes cyclists) knows what >>>> road tax is and that you have to pay it to use the roads. >>> Once again, YOU PAY TO USE THE VEHICLE, NOT FOR THE ROAD. >>> You can say you pay for the roads as often as you like it still is >>> not true. >> Bollox. You can SORN the vehicle if you don't want to use it on the >> road. The moment it touches the road you have to have a valid tax disc. > That's all one can really call it, since that's what the DVLA call it. > We know its VED and it used to be Road Tax. The DVLA actually called it "Road Tax" in a relatively recent advert shown on TV (the one featuring Chitty Chitty Bang-Bang, warning drivers not to dodge their road tax because "the computer will get you"). Since then, they have started using the term "car tax" instead. But it doesn't matter; everyone *knows* what road tax is. Even the very silly people who like to pretend that it was abolished in 1746 or something.
From: Adrian on 3 Dec 2009 12:29
JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > Since then, they have started using the term "car tax" instead. Which was something else entirely - a 10% (IIRC) duty on new cars, abolished in the early '80s. |