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From: Brimstone on 23 Jul 2010 10:14 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message news:4c498f60$0$22686$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:cpGdnZJvGoeLGNTRnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d(a)bt.com... >> >> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >> news:i2brj4$ubu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:43:17 +0100 >>> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>>>> What a load of drivel. >>>>> >>>>> Stop bike. >>>>> >>>>> Get off and stand next to wall/bush. >>>>> >>>>> Let cars past. >>>>> >>>>> See , not hard is it? >>>>> >>>>> B2003 >>>> >>>>The only thing is that if you all-of-a-sudden stop, and get off you >>>>bike, >>> >>> Why would you do a sudden stop? Stick your arm out so drivers know >>> you're >>> stopping and coast to a halt. >> >> Most car drivers don't know hand signals. > > You have to know them to pass the driving test, Are you quite sure about that? > so those car drivers without a driving license and insurance should be > arrested and given a prison sentence. This does occasionally happen. > >>>>It is far better to wait until there is an appropriate shoulder, >>>>lay-bay, >>>>side exit etc. where you *can* stop and get out of the way and let them >>>>pass. Even better, just wait for the road to widen (or otherwise be safe >>>>to >>>>pass) and pull over and wave them past. Then there is no need to hold up >>>>the >>>>traffic or put anyone at risk. >>> >>> In an ideal world yes. In a narrow road that you might be puffing your >>> way up for the next 10 minutes its only good manners to let other >>> traffic >>> pass. >> >> Why should people sitting in nice comfy overpowered cars get precedence >> over people using muscle power? > > No one gets precedence over anyone else - there are rules governing road > craft and conduct - everyone has to comply with the same rules. If a > person sitting in a nice comfy car is driving too slowly, then they will > fail their driving test and not be allowed to drive on the road > unsupervised! Indeed, but what about after they've passed their test?
From: Brimstone on 23 Jul 2010 10:16 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i2c4cp$db8$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:03:26 +0100 > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>Why should people sitting in nice comfy overpowered cars get precedence >>over >>people using muscle power? > > Well since you're so fond of quoting the highway code when it suits you: > > http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314 > > "169 > Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a > large > or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, > pull > in where it is safe and let traffic pass." > > It should be interesting to see you try and wriggle out of that. > It's good that you highlighted the clause that proves mileburner's point about finding somewhere safe to pull in. Well done.
From: Brimstone on 23 Jul 2010 10:18 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i2c6j1$h15$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:44:12 +0100 > "Mike P" <privacy(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:03:26 +0100 >> >>HC states..... >> >> "........pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass." >> >>> It should be interesting to see you try and wriggle out of that. >> >>Mileburner says >> >>"It is far better to wait until there is an appropriate shoulder, lay-bay, >>side exit etc. where you can stop and get out of the way and let them >>pass. Even better, just wait for the road to widen (or otherwise be safe >>to >>pass) and pull over and wave them past. Then there is no need to hold up >>the >>traffic or put anyone at risk" >> >>Now, where's the difference? > > The difference is that he seems to think bikes take up as much room as > cars. They do. > If theres enough room to stand by the side of the road then theres enough > room for a bicycle to pull over , stop and let cars past. > Have you ever stood at the side of the road and had cars go past at 60 mph a few inches from you?
From: Mr. Benn on 23 Jul 2010 09:28 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i2c4cp$db8$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:03:26 +0100 > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>Why should people sitting in nice comfy overpowered cars get precedence >>over >>people using muscle power? > > Well since you're so fond of quoting the highway code when it suits you: > > http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314 > > "169 > Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a > large > or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, > pull > in where it is safe and let traffic pass." > > It should be interesting to see you try and wriggle out of that. Is a bicycle a vehicle? It's as a machine used to transport people and loads on roads so I guess it is.
From: Adrian on 23 Jul 2010 11:15
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> Most car drivers don't know hand signals. >> You have to know them to pass the driving test, > Are you quite sure about that? They're still in the Highway Code, so anybody is liable to be asked about them during their test. That, of course, in no way implies that the average driver will remember a thing about them... |