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From: Brimstone on 27 Jul 2010 04:41 "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:e057a689-fb6a-4647-b423-0dd9d36d2400(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com... > If you go faster, you have a better chance of getting to the traffic > lights while they are still on green. How do you know they're on green at the moment?
From: GT on 27 Jul 2010 05:00 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7ZKdnZ9Q97VadtDRnZ2dnUVZ7tOdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4c4dea37$0$26079$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:FqCdnUmuLrZNe9DRnZ2dnUVZ8lGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> >>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>> news:4c4ddd83$0$12278$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>> news:i2e1s3$2kf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> >>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c49ba53$0$22739$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:i2c6v5$s8k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4c496d79$0$22716$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>>>> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Boltar's cycling advice is not really very good. I can't imagine >>>>>>>>> why... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And your road knowledge is very very very bad. We all know why! >>>>>>> Who is the "we"? are you and boltar the same person? >>>>>> I was simply referring to anyone in this *driving* group who knows >>>>>> how to drive properly. >>>>> >>>>> So you are trying to drum up allies for you bizarre points of view? >>>> >>>> Not my point of view matey - its the DSA and the highway code! >>> Where in the highway code? >> >> Check the DSA gov website - you'll find it - look under "making good >> progress" > Got a link? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DSA.gov
From: GT on 27 Jul 2010 05:34 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:zdCdne4JBt1C9NDRnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message > news:i2jnar$fae$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:47:24 +0100 >> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >>>news:i2jj26$7pm$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:43:40 +0100 >>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> We're not talking about stopping on a dual carraigeway. >>>>> >>>>>Quite, if we were I'd have written "70mph". >>>> >>>> The limit on most of them is 60. Stick to your bicycle old man. >>> >>>Really, are you seriously saying that the NSL on a dual carriageway is >>>60mph? >> >> If theres no central reservation yes. Feel free to argue the point. > > If there's no central reservation what makes you think it's a dual > carriageway? May I butt in with a simple Carriageways vs lanes statement? (clearly someone should reply with a 'no' here). The numbers of 'lanes' on a road and number of 'carriageways' have nothing to do with each other. The word carriageway refers to a stretch of tarmac. A single stretch of tarmac is a single carriageway and can have 1, 2, 3, 4+ lanes painted upon it and those lanes can run in either direction. If there are 2 separate pieces of tarmac with a divider (gravel trap or grassy strip) between them, then we have two carriageways (commonly called dual carriageway). Each of these 2 carriageways can have 1, 2, 3+ lanes painted on them, but traffic usually flows in only one direction per carriageway. Having said this, I'm not sure if the national 60 limit increases to 70 *automatically* as soon as the central reservation appears. I seem to remember that there has to be a 'dual carriageway' sign before the limit actually goes up to 70, despite the fact that the driver can clearly see that the carriageway has split in two.
From: GT on 27 Jul 2010 05:42 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:beadnQD0fLE5BtPRnZ2dnUVZ8iidnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:e057a689-fb6a-4647-b423-0dd9d36d2400(a)q2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com... > >> If you go faster, you have a better chance of getting to the traffic >> lights while they are still on green. > > How do you know they're on green at the moment? As posted already, in some cities, the lights are timed to increase traffic flow - as one set of lights changes to green the traffic accellerates up to the speed limit and the lights down the road are timed so that as the traffic arrives at the speed limit, the lights change to green. Of course, if there is a slow moving vehicle holding everyone up and illegally refusing to yield, then this system falls down around its feet! I also read that lots of these timings were changed a few months before London brought in congestion charging - this was to falsly increase the congestion and then after the congestion charging was introduced, they put the timings back and claimed that congestion charging was a winner!
From: boltar2003 on 27 Jul 2010 05:42
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:34:57 +0100 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >Having said this, I'm not sure if the national 60 limit increases to 70 >*automatically* as soon as the central reservation appears. I seem to >remember that there has to be a 'dual carriageway' sign before the limit >actually goes up to 70, despite the fact that the driver can clearly see >that the carriageway has split in two. I wonder why they bother with the 60/70 difference. A head on with a closing speed of 120 isn't going to be any more survivable than one at 140. B2003 |