From: boltar2003 on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:05:57 +0100
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>Talking of ridiculous situations, the other day I was cycling on a single
>track road and came up behind a car doing 10 mph which is about half my
>normal speed. The driver could have quite easily moved over and let me pass.
>After a short while he/we met another cyclist coming in the opposite
>direction. The driver slowed down (even more), and pulled over to let the
>cyclist pass. I thought I might be able to get past too but as soon as he
>and the oncoming cyclist passed each other, he pulled away again reaching a
>top speed of 10mph (again) and continued blocking me from passing, until he
>finally pulled over about half a mile ahead.
>
>Is this boltar getting his own back? I thought...

Nah. Why would I want to delay myself? I'd just reverse over you and sod off
at the NSL. Much less hassle :)

B2003

From: Brimstone on

<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:40:28 +0100
> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:34:57 +0100
>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote:
>>>>Having said this, I'm not sure if the national 60 limit increases to 70
>>>>*automatically* as soon as the central reservation appears. I seem to
>>>>remember that there has to be a 'dual carriageway' sign before the limit
>>>>actually goes up to 70, despite the fact that the driver can clearly see
>>>>that the carriageway has split in two.
>>>
>>> I wonder why they bother with the 60/70 difference. A head on with a
>>> closing
>>> speed of 120 isn't going to be any more survivable than one at 140.
>>
>>You seem to have overlooked the fact that at lower speeds, a head-on is
>>less
>>likely to occur.
>
> Maybe, but I still don't think 10mph will make any difference at those
> sorts of speeds.
>
It is less likely that a collision will happen if the closing speed is lower
since there will be more time for the overtaking car to complete its
manoeuvre and pull back in.


From: boltar2003 on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:49:59 +0100
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Maybe, but I still don't think 10mph will make any difference at those
>> sorts of speeds.
>>
>It is less likely that a collision will happen if the closing speed is lower
>since there will be more time for the overtaking car to complete its
>manoeuvre and pull back in.

Ultimately it makes little odds because on most single lane A roads the traffic
will be stuck doing 40mph behind an HGV and on multi lane roads you shouldn't
need to overtake anyway and should never do so into the oncoming traffic if
you value your life. Plus its illegal anyway - they always have no overtaking
lines down the centre.

B2003

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boltar's cycling advice is not really very good. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine why...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your road knowledge is very very very bad. We all know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who is the "we"? are you and boltar the same person?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was simply referring to anyone in this *driving* group who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows how to drive properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you are trying to drum up allies for you bizarre points of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> view?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not my point of view matey - its the DSA and the highway code!
>>>>>>>>>>> Where in the highway code?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check the DSA gov website - you'll find it - look under "making
>>>>>>>>>> good progress"
>>>>>>>>> Got a link?
>>>>>>>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DSA.gov
>>>>>>> You've cited a specific entry in the Highway Code. Can you provide a
>>>>>>> direct link to it or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've already said elsewhere that I can't be bothered trawling through
>>>>>> it all. As I have also already said, the quote I gave earlier is from
>>>>>> a DSA driving examiner when failing a student on his driving test. If
>>>>>> you need more help, please take it up with the DSA and stop shooting
>>>>>> the messenger (me)!
>>>>> What you have failed to understand is that just because one can fail a
>>>>> driving test for failing to do something, that doesn't mean it's in
>>>>> the Highway Code nor that it is an offence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, until you either provide a link to the relevant page of the
>>>>> HC or confirm that your talking bollocks I'll keep shooting.
>>>>
>>>> ... blanks !
>>> So where's the link?
>>
>> Psst. He made it up, again :-(
> Indeed. Still it's nice that he's got a hobby.
I gave you a link to the online highway code. If you refuse to click on it,
then perhaps you should just open the copy that you learned before your
driving test. You do know the highway code, right?


From: GT on
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>> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:34:57 +0100
>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote:
>>>>Having said this, I'm not sure if the national 60 limit increases to 70
>>>>*automatically* as soon as the central reservation appears. I seem to
>>>>remember that there has to be a 'dual carriageway' sign before the limit
>>>>actually goes up to 70, despite the fact that the driver can clearly see
>>>>that the carriageway has split in two.
>>>
>>> I wonder why they bother with the 60/70 difference. A head on with a
>>> closing
>>> speed of 120 isn't going to be any more survivable than one at 140.
>>>
>> A good question, especially as we now have one sign with two meanings.
>>
>> For those who started driving more recently, the current NSL sign (white
>> disc with a black diagonal bar) original meant "No Speed Limit".
>
> Indeed, but it the world of boltar and GT that would mean that any road
> user would need to accelerate to infinity otherwise they would failing to
> make progress. It needed capping because many drivers saw No Speed Limit
> as an excuse to drive as fast as they liked with no regard for safety.

When you misquote things like this, you just end up looking silly - its the
DSA's rules, not mine! I think you will find that when you sat your driving
test, it was a DSA examiner that sat beside you, not me or Bolter!. If you
want to drive around ignoring all the rules of the road, then please just
stay away from my children as they walk to school, you lunatic!

> And for those with knowledge as limited as GT and boltar, the NSL also
> varies depending on the type of vehicle you are driving.

My knowledge is limited to that of the highway code and DSA. What more
'knowledge' do we need when discussing road laws and road craft in a driving
group?