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From: boltar2003 on 22 Jul 2010 06:35 On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:27:27 +0100 "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:40:28 +0100 >> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>> And if there is nowhere to pull over to? If you are heading into a >>> pinch point? If the road is narrow and there is oncoming traffic? A >>> brow of a hill? Any cyclist who pulls over in these situations is >>> putting themselves and others at risk. >> >> Putting others at risk? How does that work then? > >You really do need some driving lessons if you need to ask. Humour me then. How does a cyclist stopped at the side of the road put anyone else at risk? >> If a cyclist is holding up traffic he should move over. End of. If he >> doesn't like it thats just tough luck. There are probably 10 or 20 >> people behind him who arn't exactly in the best of moods as it is and >> the more he pisses them off the more likely one of them will >> deliberatly do a near miss as they pass him to teach the tosser a >> lesson. > ><yawn> The standard issue response from you if you have no answer to something. B2003
From: Graham Harrison on 22 Jul 2010 06:48 > > How does a cyclist stopped at the side of the road put > anyone else at risk? > It depends, surely. If he stops on a straight where drivers can see round him to pass safely all well and good. But if he stops on a bend where the drivers can't see and to pass means they have to pull into the oncoming lane the risk is of someone coming the other way. A bicycle (and a human for that matter) does have some width.
From: mileburner on 22 Jul 2010 06:52 Graham Harrison wrote: >> How does a cyclist stopped at the side of the road put >> anyone else at risk? >> > > It depends, surely. If he stops on a straight where drivers can see > round him to pass safely all well and good. But if he stops on a > bend where the drivers can't see and to pass means they have to pull > into the oncoming lane the risk is of someone coming the other way. A > bicycle (and a human for that matter) does have some width. Thank you Graham for explaining the blatently obvious to the terminally thick.
From: GT on 22 Jul 2010 06:59 "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:i296e5$tvm$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:40:28 +0100 >> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >>> And if there is nowhere to pull over to? If you are heading into a >>> pinch point? If the road is narrow and there is oncoming traffic? A >>> brow of a hill? Any cyclist who pulls over in these situations is >>> putting themselves and others at risk. >> >> Putting others at risk? How does that work then? > > You really do need some driving lessons if you need to ask. And you should stay well away from our roads if you think that! >> If a cyclist is holding up traffic he should move over. End of. If he >> doesn't like it thats just tough luck. There are probably 10 or 20 >> people behind him who arn't exactly in the best of moods as it is and >> the more he pisses them off the more likely one of them will >> deliberatly do a near miss as they pass him to teach the tosser a >> lesson. > > <yawn> Tired? (of being wrong)
From: GT on 22 Jul 2010 07:02
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:i2943c$bun$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > GT wrote: >> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:i28le3$tdn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "GT" <ContactGT_rem_ove_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:4c4774db$0$12279$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>> "Bernard" <bernard.x.ramsden(a)x.btinternet.x.com> wrote in message >>>> news:VMidnWDLFL8W79rRnZ2dnUVZ8hCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>> >>>>> "Jethro" <krazykara0(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:6842a0c5-6d67-4d78-a6b5-7ce0b485caa7(a)q35g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> Having just watched a number cars grinding up a hill near me (I >>>>>> was walking) because a cyclist was at the head of the queue, and >>>>>> it was too twisty and narrow to safely overtake, I started >>>>>> wondering about the OVERALL effect cyclists have on carbon >>>>>> emissions. Does all the extra carbon produced by cars having to crawl >>>>>> behind >>>>>> cyclists cancel out, or exceed the carbon saved by the cyclist ? >>>>> >>>>> If a driver is being held up by slow moving traffic and the driver >>>>> is concerned about their affect on the environment, they they >>>>> should find a safe place to park, turn off the engine and wait for >>>>> the traffic to dissipate, >>>> >>>> How about... >>>> If a driver is holding up traffic by moving more slowly than >>>> everyone else is capable, he should find a safe place to stop and >>>> let the faster moving traffic dissipate. >>> >>> Either way, if they were *that* concerned, they would probably not be >>> driving... >> >> Driving / riding - are you going to argue about a verb now?? Petty! >> >> However this 'being concerned and stopping' is precisely the point - >> cyclists don't care what problems they directly cause. They don't >> give a damn about what is going on behind them. They are not >> concerned about the pollution, queues and frustration that they >> directly cause, they are only concerned with number 1 and things that >> impact their day directly. This is evident daily on our roads and >> frequently in this driving group and it annoys me. > > Ah, diddums. > > You are Violet Elizabeth Bott AICM5� What just hapenned? Are you OK? (not that I care!) |