Diesels In England: Why ?
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From: hls on 1 Jun 2010 11:22 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:hu2tdp$op6 > - diesel engines tend to be less responsive and limited to fewer maximum > rpms Yes, sort of.. Some years ago when the Arab oil embargo kicked gasoline prices sky high, and availability was limited, one of the diesel engine companies prepared a small V8 which could be transplanted into almost any automobile, and exhibited it at the Offshore Technology Conference in Houston. I believe they specified 3500 rpm on that engine. Not a screamer, but it was proof to me that diesels didnt have to grunt around at 1500 rpm. These engines were ready for sale, they claimed, but obviously never caught on, as gasoline came back onto the market.
From: hls on 1 Jun 2010 11:23 "Thomas Tornblom" <thomas(a)Hax.SE> wrote in message > While I'm no proponent of high fuel taxes, it is a powerful weapon to > bring overall fuel efficiency up. Gas guzzling SUV:s are becoming > increasingly hard to sell in Europe. > > I get around 45-50 mpg with our gasoline 122 bhp 1.4 TSI 2010 golf > 6, which is a nice car, about as spacious as an old Volvo 740. Emperial gallon or US gallon?
From: aemeijers on 1 Jun 2010 19:27 TOF wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2010 19:22:03 -0500, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> > wrote: > << Political rant and posturing deleted>> > > Diesel engines are popular in Europpe for a couple of good reasons: > > 1. The greater thermodynamic efficiency of the diesel engine leads to > better fuel mileage. Better fuel mileage and higher fuel taxes lead > to lower consumption of petroleum. > > 2. Diesel fuel is significantly cheaper than "petrol" in Europe. The > refining practices are quite different. You could look it up. > > The Euro driver can operate a relatively small diesel or a big > gasolene burner. The choice is theirs. > > The USA could impose higher fuel taxes that would help pay for our > crumbling infrastructure and promote efficiency and reduce foreign > dependence (and obviously risky procedures like deep sea drilling) and > help pay for things like the mideast wars that always are paid for > "off budget". What is required is a thoughtful and rational > discussion without rants, name-calling, and general vituperation. > > Not likely to happen in today's poisonous political climate... A big flaw in your theory- Europe is SMALL. In a long day, you can pass through several countries. Here in MI, it would take me all day to drive to the other end of the STATE. Texas is even worse. You can choke back your rage at high fuel taxes when 100 klicks is a 'long drive'. Sure, many US commuter cars could get replaced by euro-style golf carts, but if the family can't afford multiple cars, what do they go visit Grandma in? -- aem sends...
From: Bret on 1 Jun 2010 20:06 On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:27:40 -0400, aemeijers wrote: > TOF wrote: >> On Mon, 31 May 2010 19:22:03 -0500, jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m(a)mwt,net> >> wrote: >> << Political rant and posturing deleted>> >> >> Diesel engines are popular in Europpe for a couple of good reasons: >> >> 1. The greater thermodynamic efficiency of the diesel engine leads to >> better fuel mileage. Better fuel mileage and higher fuel taxes lead >> to lower consumption of petroleum. >> >> 2. Diesel fuel is significantly cheaper than "petrol" in Europe. The >> refining practices are quite different. You could look it up. >> >> The Euro driver can operate a relatively small diesel or a big >> gasolene burner. The choice is theirs. >> >> The USA could impose higher fuel taxes that would help pay for our >> crumbling infrastructure and promote efficiency and reduce foreign >> dependence (and obviously risky procedures like deep sea drilling) and >> help pay for things like the mideast wars that always are paid for >> "off budget". What is required is a thoughtful and rational >> discussion without rants, name-calling, and general vituperation. >> >> Not likely to happen in today's poisonous political climate... > > A big flaw in your theory- Europe is SMALL. In a long day, you can pass > through several countries. Here in MI, it would take me all day to drive > to the other end of the STATE. Texas is even worse. You can choke back > your rage at high fuel taxes when 100 klicks is a 'long drive'. Sure, > many US commuter cars could get replaced by euro-style golf carts, but > if the family can't afford multiple cars, what do they go visit Grandma in? Take a look at Australia for comparison.
From: Thomas Tornblom on 2 Jun 2010 03:09
"hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> writes: > "Thomas Tornblom" <thomas(a)Hax.SE> wrote in message >> While I'm no proponent of high fuel taxes, it is a powerful weapon to >> bring overall fuel efficiency up. Gas guzzling SUV:s are becoming >> increasingly hard to sell in Europe. >> I get around 45-50 mpg with our gasoline 122 bhp 1.4 TSI 2010 golf >> 6, which is a nice car, about as spacious as an old Volvo 740. > > Emperial gallon or US gallon? US |