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From: Brent on 1 May 2010 02:49 On 2010-05-01, The Chief Instigator <patrick(a)io.com> wrote: > On Sat, 1 May 2010 04:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 2010-05-01, The Chief Instigator <patrick(a)io.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 1 May 2010 01:06:03 +0000 (UTC), Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On 2010-04-30, larry_scholnick <larry_scholnick(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> You are driving along a freeway and you see a sign of the following >>>>> type: >>>>> >>>>> Destination >>>>> Next Exit (or Next Right) >>>>> >>>>> You take that next Exit/Right and then the exit splits - East vs. >>>>> West, North vs. South, or whatever - and there's no clue as to whether >>>>> the previously signed Destination is to Left or to the Right at the >>>>> split. >> >>>>> Someone in the highway department should be shot, or at least forced >>>>> to stand out there directing hapless motorists which way to go to get >>>>> to the destination. >>>> >>>> I can't tell if US directional interstate signage is just another case >>>> of arrogant american political thinking where they believe that their >>>> out of date way of doing things is the best in the world or if it's yet >>>> another futile attempt to slow people down by intentionally making the >>>> roads less safe. >>>> >>>> Autobahn signage shows a little map to give drivers half a clue. It also >>>> uses cities instead of often misleading compass directions. For >>>> instance, in chicago N-S expressways are labeled E-W because they are >>>> E-W across the whole country, but they don't resume their E-W course >>>> until they are out of IL. >>>> >>>> Autobahn signs are also clear and well before one has to make a >>>> decision. I found them clearer and easier to follow and they are in a >>>> language I don't know. >> >>> Maybe you should get used to actually looking at maps. >> >> Yeah, that's a typical american response to doing things a shitty way. >> Make some assholish comment that the person who suggests that a better >> way exists is somehow incompetent or lazy. Just because one can adapt to >> a shitty system doesn't make the system less shitty. >> >>> (I-20 heads south in >>> east Dallas and parallels I-30 - which used to be the DFW Turnpike until >>> 1978 - until it wraps around southwest Fort Worth and then hops off I-820 to >>> end I-30 about five miles west.) >> >> Why should I care about interstates in texas and their history? > > For all you know, you might wind up instate. I bother to learn my way > around the metropolitan areas in the state, of which there are a few. If > you have to go to any of the largest 20 in this state, it'd serve you to > learn your way. I've only been at that for 45 years, so far. Typical american response to a substandard american system is to make out the person who points out it is substandard to be lazy, ignorant, or something else negative. To point out that he has some personal failing for not wanting to take extra time dealing with the substandard system. But there's enough market economy left where a person can simply choose to avoid as much of it as he can. Maybe those concerned with commerce would seek to have better signage for the road system.
From: Otto Yamamoto on 1 May 2010 07:17 On Sat, 01 May 2010 06:49:42 +0000, Brent wrote: > On 2010-05-01, The Chief Instigator <patrick(a)io.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 1 May 2010 04:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Brent >> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On 2010-05-01, The Chief Instigator <patrick(a)io.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010 01:06:03 +0000 (UTC), Brent >>>> <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2010-04-30, larry_scholnick <larry_scholnick(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> You are driving along a freeway and you see a sign of the following >>>>>> type: >>>>>> >>>>>> Destination >>>>>> Next Exit (or Next Right) >>>>>> >>>>>> You take that next Exit/Right and then the exit splits - East vs. >>>>>> West, North vs. South, or whatever - and there's no clue as to >>>>>> whether the previously signed Destination is to Left or to the >>>>>> Right at the split. >>> >>>>>> Someone in the highway department should be shot, or at least >>>>>> forced to stand out there directing hapless motorists which way to >>>>>> go to get to the destination. >>>>> >>>>> I can't tell if US directional interstate signage is just another >>>>> case of arrogant american political thinking where they believe that >>>>> their out of date way of doing things is the best in the world or if >>>>> it's yet another futile attempt to slow people down by intentionally >>>>> making the roads less safe. >>>>> >>>>> Autobahn signage shows a little map to give drivers half a clue. It >>>>> also uses cities instead of often misleading compass directions. For >>>>> instance, in chicago N-S expressways are labeled E-W because they >>>>> are E-W across the whole country, but they don't resume their E-W >>>>> course until they are out of IL. >>>>> >>>>> Autobahn signs are also clear and well before one has to make a >>>>> decision. I found them clearer and easier to follow and they are in >>>>> a language I don't know. >>> >>>> Maybe you should get used to actually looking at maps. >>> >>> Yeah, that's a typical american response to doing things a shitty way. >>> Make some assholish comment that the person who suggests that a better >>> way exists is somehow incompetent or lazy. Just because one can adapt >>> to a shitty system doesn't make the system less shitty. >>> >>>> (I-20 heads south in >>>> east Dallas and parallels I-30 - which used to be the DFW Turnpike >>>> until 1978 - until it wraps around southwest Fort Worth and then hops >>>> off I-820 to end I-30 about five miles west.) >>> >>> Why should I care about interstates in texas and their history? >> >> For all you know, you might wind up instate. I bother to learn my way >> around the metropolitan areas in the state, of which there are a few. >> If you have to go to any of the largest 20 in this state, it'd serve >> you to learn your way. I've only been at that for 45 years, so far. > > Typical american response to a substandard american system is to make > out the person who points out it is substandard to be lazy, ignorant, or > something else negative. To point out that he has some personal failing > for not wanting to take extra time dealing with the substandard system. > But there's enough market economy left where a person can simply choose > to avoid as much of it as he can. Maybe those concerned with commerce > would seek to have better signage for the road system. Cal? -- Otto Yamamoto
From: Stewart on 1 May 2010 18:00 "Evan Platt" <evan(a)theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message news:cuhmt591b1eqcq3ta7s44uh5rq9e28t0fg(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:00:30 -0700, richard <member(a)newsguy.com> > wrote: > >>When I first started driving a truck, I found out quickly that in >>like >>Dallas Tx, they had a bad habit of posting exit sign information >>after the >>exit only. So unless you knew where you were supposed to be in >>advance, you >>got screwed. > > So, what, the sign said "Smithville Exit - You Just Missed It"? Maybe "Previous exit, Smithville". > >>Eventually, they finally added more signs. >> >>What I find even more irritating is, when they use exit signage only >>local >>residents would know about. > > Example? How about "Smithville, that-a-way ->" > -- > To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious and .invalid from my e-mail > address.
From: US 71 on 1 May 2010 21:46 "The Chief Instigator" <patrick(a)io.com> wrote >> >> NB I-59 @ US 98 in Hattiesburg, MS > > It's not rocket science...northbounders on 59 can go east on 98 at Exit 59 > northbound, or west on US 98 at Exit 65B. (It's on my short route between > here and my parents in Kentucky.) > Maybe I should say Hardy St/98W? ;) If you want 98, the choice is obvious. For services, the choices are not as obvious.
From: The Chief Instigator on 2 May 2010 01:21
On Sat, 1 May 2010 20:46:20 -0500, US 71 <us71(a)cox.net> wrote: > > "The Chief Instigator" <patrick(a)io.com> wrote > >>> >>> NB I-59 @ US 98 in Hattiesburg, MS >> >> It's not rocket science...northbounders on 59 can go east on 98 at Exit 59 >> northbound, or west on US 98 at Exit 65B. (It's on my short route between >> here and my parents in Kentucky.) >> > > Maybe I should say Hardy St/98W? ;) > > If you want 98, the choice is obvious. For services, the choices are not as > obvious. No arguments there, as states have their own policies. -- Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick(a)io.com) Houston, Texas www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (April 11) NEXT GAME: The 2010-11 opener, in October 2010 |