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From: Adrian on 13 Mar 2010 09:58
delboy <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> > I would be happy to drive a Toyota because they are a good, safe,
>> > well made car, despite your ranting vendetta against them.

>> I wouldn't. They're mind-bendingly dull.

> The Toyota Land Cruiser V8 looks quite interesting!

Hardly.
From: Doug on 13 Mar 2010 10:28
On 13 Mar, 12:09, Elder <carl.rob...(a)bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
> In article <04f15ac3-cb20-49d9-ba16-3900ba1b0fd0
> @b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, jag...(a)riseup.net says...> Bicycles are much less dangerous than cars and this should always be
> > taken into account.
>
> Not true, there is a much greater chance of a pedestrian body being
> punctured by part of a bicycle involved in an accident than a car. Cars
> are designed to be pedestrian friendly in an accident, bicycles are
> designed to eviscerate them and a lethal weapon far more dangerous than
> a machete or a flick knife, because the bicycle pretends to be something
> other than a murderous weapon of the sociopath.
>
Rubbish. Bicycles have a much lower momentum than a car therefore they
are less likely to kill. Also the fronts of many cars have metal
projections, such as insignia, grills.and number plates.The time
before last when I was hit by a car I received a number of cuts to my
head and legs.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.



From: Brimstone on 13 Mar 2010 10:39


"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message
news:3e5cf1b2-1316-436a-ba7d-bb5a4b22ba80(a)f8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> The time before last when I was hit by a car I received a number of cuts
> to my head and legs.
>
How did you come to collide with this car Doug?


From: delboy on 13 Mar 2010 10:48
On Mar 13, 3:28 pm, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 12:09, Elder <carl.rob...(a)bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:> In article <04f15ac3-cb20-49d9-ba16-3900ba1b0fd0
> > @b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, jag...(a)riseup.net says...> Bicycles are much less dangerous than cars and this should always be
> > > taken into account.
>
> > Not true, there is a much greater chance of a pedestrian body being
> > punctured by part of a bicycle involved in an accident than a car. Cars
> > are designed to be pedestrian friendly in an accident, bicycles are
> > designed to eviscerate them and a lethal weapon far more dangerous than
> > a machete or a flick knife, because the bicycle pretends to be something
> > other than a murderous weapon of the sociopath.
>
> Rubbish. Bicycles have a much lower momentum than a car therefore they
> are less likely to kill. Also the fronts of many cars have metal
> projections, such as insignia, grills.and number plates.The time
> before last when I was hit by a car I received a number of cuts to my
> head and legs.
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaignswww.zing.icom43.net
> A driving licence is a licence to kill.

That depends how heavy the cyclist is (as they make up most of the
mass) and how fast he (or she) is going. A heavy cyclist riding fast
downhill can do a serious amount of damage to himself, a vehicle, or a
pedestrian.

Modern cars are designed to minimise injuries to pedestrians (and
presumably cyclists), by having well rounded fronts, an absence of
sharp projections and crumple zones to absorb energy. I guess that the
last but one driver who failed to kill you must have been driving a
vintage car.

Derek C
A bike is an unlicensed weapon!
From: BrianW on 13 Mar 2010 11:32
On 13 Mar, 09:34, Mike P <french...(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:15:41 -0800, Doug sang, in the style of Bill
> Bailey:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Motorists on these NGs have been pointing to a lack of deaths caused by
> > the recent spate of car faults as some kind of an excuse. Well it looks
> > as if they haven't been properly investigated in this car- centric side
> > of the pond. Our government has stayed well out of the picture as it
> > allows millions to continue driving these dangerous vehicles with faults
> > on our roads. What will it take to stop drivers killing people?
>
> > "California sues Toyota for faults
>
> > Several dozen lawsuits have already been launched against Toyota
>
> > Prosecutors in California are suing Toyota, claiming the Japanese
> > carmaker sold hundreds of thousands of vehicles that it knew had
> > defects.
>
> > The world's largest carmaker has recalled millions of vehicles because
> > of problems accelerating and braking.
>
> > Regulators have linked five deaths
>
> Five? Is that "dozens" in your world then Duhg?

Be fair, now. Mr Bollen is only one order of magnitude out here.
That's considerably better than his usual standard of being two or
even three orders of magnitude wrong.
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