From: AZ Nomad on
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:48:10 -0500, Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne(a)GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote:
>N8N wrote:
>> On Aug 6, 12:01 am, Hachiroku ?$B%O%A%m%/ <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:25:40 -0400, News wrote:
>>>> Hachiroku ?$B%O%A%m%/ wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:05:24 +0000, Matthew Russotto wrote:
>>>>>> In article <i3faj2$s3...(a)news.albasani.net>,
>>>>>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>>>>> That's what gets me about these calls. You have time to yap on the phone?
>>>>>>> And, what's with the dispatcher NOT telling her...
>>>>>>> Depress the brake
>>>>>>> Move the shift lever into neutral
>>>>>>> Turn the key to the OFF position or
>>>>>>> Hold the START button for 5 seconds...
>>>>>> Step 1 is not to depress the brake. Step 1 is to remove both feet
>>>>>> from the pedals.
>>>>> First thing I do, just in case the cruise control has a mind of it's own.
>>>> Consider that this occurred in New Hampshire, the "live free or die" state.
>>> Yeah, I know. I wonder where? I go there frequently on business.
>>> Just what I want...a speeding, out of control car with no driver coming up
>>> behind me...
>>
>> I'm curious why instead of aiming for a tree, ASSuming that all
>> "normal" methods for stopping the car failed, she didn't just
>> sideswipe some Armco or Jersey barrier and ride it down until it was
>> going slow enough to safely turn off the ignition (assuming she was
>> worried about the steering lock. If it could be turned off without
>> locking the steering, that would have been the first thing to do.)
>>
>> nate


>Most females are not aware that just turning the ignition switch one
>"click" to the left does not affect the steering lock...

><snort>

neither are most men
From: Grumpy AuContraire on
Brent wrote:
> On 2010-08-06, N8N <njnagel(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious why instead of aiming for a tree, ASSuming that all
>> "normal" methods for stopping the car failed, she didn't just
>> sideswipe some Armco or Jersey barrier and ride it down until it was
>> going slow enough to safely turn off the ignition (assuming she was
>> worried about the steering lock. If it could be turned off without
>> locking the steering, that would have been the first thing to do.)
>
> With all these 'runaway' cars these days I am thinking that over century
> of dumbing people down has worked.

Gawd... Don't get me started on the dumbing down road. For me, a
sensible policy would include (when getting a first driver's license) a
test on the four basic functions of internal combustion powered cars;
Fuel level, Engine temperature, Oil pressure and Electrical status.

Call me old fashioned, but simple knowledge can keep you out of a world
of hurt..


> The federally mandated solution will probably be some complicated
> central control on-star like thing complete with real time tracking and
> logging instead of a simple kill switch (or outlawing the automatic
> transmission :) )


Gawd... Don't bet me started on guv'ment mandates as to auto
manufacturing. How helpless have we become??? Can't even check tire
pressure anymore. Grrrr

JT
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:45:33 -0500, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:25:40 -0400, News wrote:
>>
>>> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:05:24 +0000, Matthew Russotto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <i3faj2$s3m$1(a)news.albasani.net>,
>>>>> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>>>>>> That's what gets me about these calls. You have time to yap on the phone?
>>>>>> And, what's with the dispatcher NOT telling her...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depress the brake
>>>>>> Move the shift lever into neutral
>>>>>> Turn the key to the OFF position or
>>>>>> Hold the START button for 5 seconds...
>>>>> Step 1 is not to depress the brake. Step 1 is to remove both feet
>>>>> from the pedals.
>>>> First thing I do, just in case the cruise control has a mind of it's own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Consider that this occurred in New Hampshire, the "live free or die" state.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I know. I wonder where? I go there frequently on business.
>> Just what I want...a speeding, out of control car with no driver coming up
>> behind me...
>
>
> Especially if you're goin' down the Mt. Washington Summit road...
>
> JT


LOL!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:58:11 +0000, Brent wrote:

> On 2010-08-06, N8N <njnagel(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious why instead of aiming for a tree, ASSuming that all
>> "normal" methods for stopping the car failed, she didn't just
>> sideswipe some Armco or Jersey barrier and ride it down until it was
>> going slow enough to safely turn off the ignition (assuming she was
>> worried about the steering lock. If it could be turned off without
>> locking the steering, that would have been the first thing to do.)
>
> With all these 'runaway' cars these days I am thinking that over century
> of dumbing people down has worked.
>
> The federally mandated solution will probably be some complicated
> central control on-star like thing complete with real time tracking and
> logging instead of a simple kill switch (or outlawing the automatic
> transmission :) )

You aren't too far off. GPS systems installed in cars from the
factory/dealer already have the capability to 'phone home'.



From: Nate Nagel on
On 08/06/2010 03:34 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> Brent wrote:
>> On 2010-08-06, N8N <njnagel(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious why instead of aiming for a tree, ASSuming that all
>>> "normal" methods for stopping the car failed, she didn't just
>>> sideswipe some Armco or Jersey barrier and ride it down until it was
>>> going slow enough to safely turn off the ignition (assuming she was
>>> worried about the steering lock. If it could be turned off without
>>> locking the steering, that would have been the first thing to do.)
>>
>> With all these 'runaway' cars these days I am thinking that over century
>> of dumbing people down has worked.
>
> Gawd... Don't get me started on the dumbing down road. For me, a
> sensible policy would include (when getting a first driver's license) a
> test on the four basic functions of internal combustion powered cars;
> Fuel level, Engine temperature, Oil pressure and Electrical status.
>
> Call me old fashioned, but simple knowledge can keep you out of a world
> of hurt..

I agree! What happened to the full gauge panel?

>
>> The federally mandated solution will probably be some complicated
>> central control on-star like thing complete with real time tracking and
>> logging instead of a simple kill switch (or outlawing the automatic
>> transmission :) )
>
>
> Gawd... Don't bet me started on guv'ment mandates as to auto
> manufacturing. How helpless have we become??? Can't even check tire
> pressure anymore. Grrrr

I for one love real TPMS though... beats the heck out of checking the
tires in the dark (only time they're likely to be dead cold) and even
better if it's raining... just start the engine, push a button a couple
of times, and you are reassured (or not) that your tires are properly
inflated.

nate


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