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From: bugo on 25 Jul 2010 16:29 "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in message news:4C4C8698.4060203(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com... > On 7/25/2010 1:14 PM, Larry G wrote: >> On Jul 25, 12:11 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy- >> Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: >>> On 7/24/2010 10:19 PM, bugo wrote: >>> >>>> "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> >>>> wrote in message >>>>> Democrat-Socialist one term wonders. >>> >>>> Your "socialist" is getting so old. As I said, go live in North Korea >>>> for a year and you'll see how un-socialist our current leaders are. >>> >>>> I wish our leaders were actually socialist. It would be funny watching >>>> the right-wing nutjobs heads really spin. >>> >>> So we are Socialist, just not quite as much as North Korea.... I >>> totally agree. And I hope to reverse the process that's taking us >>> closer to North Korean Socialism. >>> >>> Socialism leads to totalitarian regimes, it "is" individual RIGHTS that >>> help keep the power out of the governments hands. Once Government >>> steals or consumes our individual rights then it becomes a small step to >>> steal the few rights we have left and WE THE PEOPLE end up with a >>> totalitarian government or Dictator. >> >> if you could figure what to do about old farts who are broke and >> destitute because they refused to put aside money for their retirement >> and health care then we'd be in business. >> >> that's the problem. Even the right wing don't watch to watch granny >> die on the ER steps because they turned her away for lack of funds. > > You want to sell them snake oil..... you promise health care and > instead a pill to let them die. That is death care! No, "death care" is an insurance company denying somebody a life-saving treatment in the name of saving a few dollars. Insurance companies are truly the devil, and I hope to see them die within my lifetime. Death panels for insurance companies!
From: Matthew Russotto on 25 Jul 2010 17:32 In article <i2hh3p$6fd$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, US 71 <us71(a)cox.net> wrote: > > >http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,399921,00.html > >Lott, Reagan and Republican Racism > >"Here's some advice for Republicans eager to attract more African-American >supporters: don't stop with Trent Lott. Blacks won't take their commitment to >expanding the party seriously until they admit that the GOP's wrongheadedness >about race goes way beyond Lott and infects their entire party." Translation: "We're going to hold this carrot of black voters out until the GOP collapses in a paroxysm of shame. Them we're going to point and laugh and say 'I told you so' and continue to not vote for them." >The same could be said, of course, about such Republican heroes as, Barry >Goldwater, Richard Nixon or George Bush the elder, all of whom used coded >racial messages to lure disaffected blue collar and Southern white voters away >from the Democrats. Translation: "Goldwater, Nixon, and GHWB were all racists for successfully campaigning against Democrats." >Space doesn't permit a complete list of the Gipper's signals to angry white >folks that Republicans prefer to ignore, Translation: "I've got nothing." >one of the 1960s' ugliest cases of racist violence. It was a ringing >declaration of his support for "states' rights" - a code word for resistance >to black advances clearly understood by white Southern voters. Translation: "If we can call policies we oppose code words for racism, we can call anyone who advocates for them racists." -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Larry G on 25 Jul 2010 17:52 On Jul 25, 1:31 pm, Dave Head <rally...(a)att.net> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:14:59 -0700 (PDT), Larry G > > > > > > <gross.la...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >On Jul 25, 12:11 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy- > >Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: > >> On 7/24/2010 10:19 PM, bugo wrote: > > >> > "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> > >> > wrote in message > >> >> Democrat-Socialist one term wonders. > > >> > Your "socialist" is getting so old. As I said, go live in North Korea > >> > for a year and you'll see how un-socialist our current leaders are. > > >> > I wish our leaders were actually socialist. It would be funny watching > >> > the right-wing nutjobs heads really spin. > > >> So we are Socialist, just not quite as much as North Korea.... I > >> totally agree. And I hope to reverse the process that's taking us > >> closer to North Korean Socialism. > > >> Socialism leads to totalitarian regimes, it "is" individual RIGHTS that > >> help keep the power out of the governments hands. Once Government > >> steals or consumes our individual rights then it becomes a small step to > >> steal the few rights we have left and WE THE PEOPLE end up with a > >> totalitarian government or Dictator. > > >if you could figure what to do about old farts who are broke and > >destitute because they refused to put aside money for their retirement > >and health care then we'd be in business. > > Easy. They continue to work. You can train 'em for SOMETHING. If > prosperity returns, there should be lots of opportunities. > > >that's the problem. Even the right wing don't watch to watch granny > >die on the ER steps because they turned her away for lack of funds. > > Medicade for the absolutely destitute would still exist. The key is > to keep people from getting absolutely destitute. Promoting > prosperity by repealing the income taxes would do that. "keep people from becoming absolutely destitute"? we call that an enforced savings plan because some folks will spend every penny on big screen TVs and BMW then claim they are destitute when they get sick. do you think making thing "prosperous" will cure irresponsible behaviors? ha ha ha
From: Larry G on 25 Jul 2010 17:56 On Jul 25, 2:46 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy- Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: > On 7/25/2010 1:14 PM, Larry G wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 12:11 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy- > > Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: > >> On 7/24/2010 10:19 PM, bugo wrote: > > >>> "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> > >>> wrote in message > >>>> Democrat-Socialist one term wonders. > > >>> Your "socialist" is getting so old. As I said, go live in North Korea > >>> for a year and you'll see how un-socialist our current leaders are. > > >>> I wish our leaders were actually socialist. It would be funny watching > >>> the right-wing nutjobs heads really spin. > > >> So we are Socialist, just not quite as much as North Korea.... I > >> totally agree. And I hope to reverse the process that's taking us > >> closer to North Korean Socialism. > > >> Socialism leads to totalitarian regimes, it "is" individual RIGHTS that > >> help keep the power out of the governments hands. Once Government > >> steals or consumes our individual rights then it becomes a small step to > >> steal the few rights we have left and WE THE PEOPLE end up with a > >> totalitarian government or Dictator. > > > if you could figure what to do about old farts who are broke and > > destitute because they refused to put aside money for their retirement > > and health care then we'd be in business. > > > that's the problem. Even the right wing don't watch to watch granny > > die on the ER steps because they turned her away for lack of funds. > > You want to sell them snake oil..... you promise health care and > instead a pill to let them die. That is death care! that's what they do in Europe - right? that's why their have longer life expectancies?
From: bugo on 25 Jul 2010 18:00
"Larry G" <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:26ac3f87-600c-4690-879e- > that's what they do in Europe - right? that's why their have longer > life expectancies? Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US. That's plain sad. It's embarrassing. America can do better. |