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From: Larry G on 25 Jul 2010 19:26 On Jul 25, 7:06 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:53:34 -0500, Rich Piehl > <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...(a)NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in misc.transport.road: > > > > > > >On 7/25/2010 10:34 AM, Free Lunch wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:38:35 -0500, Rich Piehl > >> <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...(a)NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in misc.transport.road: > > >>> On 7/24/2010 11:28 PM, Free Lunch wrote: > >>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:48:55 -0300, Clark F Morris > >>>> <cfmpub...(a)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in misc.transport.road: > > >>>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:05:23 -0500, Rich Piehl > >>>>> <rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...(a)NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote: > > >>>>>>> much snipped > > >>>>>> This from the person who didn't know that it was the Republicans that > >>>>>> brought about civil rights laws in this country - not the democrats. > > >>>>> The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments were by the Republicans but the > >>>>> 1964 Civil Right package was by the Democrats or are you referring to > >>>>> some other civil rights laws? > > >>>>> Clark Morris > > >>>>>> Google European Socialism and do some reading for a change. > > >>>> The Republicans of today are nothing like the Civil War Republicans. > >>>> There's a reason that minorities do not vote for the GOP and that is > >>>> because the GOP has betrayed its roots and made it acceptable for > >>>> Republicans to be racists and to be publicly indifferent to the needs of > >>>> the elderly, the sick and the poor. > > >>> Yeah, boy I'm sure glad there have been no racist Democrats like Robert > >>> Byrd. > > >> He had been a racist but changed over time. He quit being a racist. If > >> he had not, he would have joined the GOP. > > >He blocked the civil rights legislation in the 60's. Learn your history. > > Yes, that was almost half a century ago. There were rational Republicans > back then, too. so called RINOs who actually were fiscal conservatives instead of the dunderheads we have now that bleat about the deficit that they created... and say that Obama did worse. so they take no ownership of the deficit.. and have proffered no solutions to it other than the ever popular "cut govt". stupidity.
From: Matthew Russotto on 25 Jul 2010 21:21 In article <i2ic6o$f43$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, bugo <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >"Larry G" <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:26ac3f87-600c-4690-879e- >> that's what they do in Europe - right? that's why their have longer >> life expectancies? > >Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US. That's plain sad. It's >embarrassing. America can do better. If the differences are caused by matters of private choice, it's not American's government's job to make America do better. If Americans die earlier because we eat more and exercise less, so be it; I don't need occasional smoker Barack Obama (or his cocaine-snorting alcoholic predecessor) telling me how to eat or exercise, or using taxation and regulation to try to force me to eat and exercise his way. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Beam Me Up Scotty on 25 Jul 2010 21:26 On 7/25/2010 4:29 PM, bugo wrote: > > > "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> > wrote in message news:4C4C8698.4060203(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com... >> On 7/25/2010 1:14 PM, Larry G wrote: >>> On Jul 25, 12:11 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy- >>> Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: >>>> On 7/24/2010 10:19 PM, bugo wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everyth...(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> >>>>> wrote in message >>>>>> Democrat-Socialist one term wonders. >>>> >>>>> Your "socialist" is getting so old. As I said, go live in North Korea >>>>> for a year and you'll see how un-socialist our current leaders are. >>>> >>>>> I wish our leaders were actually socialist. It would be funny >>>>> watching >>>>> the right-wing nutjobs heads really spin. >>>> >>>> So we are Socialist, just not quite as much as North Korea.... I >>>> totally agree. And I hope to reverse the process that's taking us >>>> closer to North Korean Socialism. >>>> >>>> Socialism leads to totalitarian regimes, it "is" individual RIGHTS that >>>> help keep the power out of the governments hands. Once Government >>>> steals or consumes our individual rights then it becomes a small >>>> step to >>>> steal the few rights we have left and WE THE PEOPLE end up with a >>>> totalitarian government or Dictator. >>> >>> if you could figure what to do about old farts who are broke and >>> destitute because they refused to put aside money for their retirement >>> and health care then we'd be in business. >>> >>> that's the problem. Even the right wing don't watch to watch granny >>> die on the ER steps because they turned her away for lack of funds. >> >> You want to sell them snake oil..... you promise health care and >> instead a pill to let them die. That is death care! > > No, "death care" is an insurance company denying somebody a life-saving > treatment in the name of saving a few dollars. Insurance companies are > truly the devil, and I hope to see them die within my lifetime. Death > panels for insurance companies! Me too I hate insurance and I hope that they lose all their customers for being a bad service, I hope you and I have to pay cash to get medical service, by the end of my life.
From: Michael Coburn on 25 Jul 2010 22:50 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:21:21 +0000, Matthew Russotto wrote: > In article <i2ic6o$f43$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, bugo > <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>"Larry G" <gross.larry(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:26ac3f87-600c-4690-879e- >>> that's what they do in Europe - right? that's why their have longer >>> life expectancies? >> >>Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US. That's plain sad. It's >>embarrassing. America can do better. > > If the differences are caused by matters of private choice, it's not > American's government's job to make America do better. If Americans die > earlier because we eat more and exercise less, so be it; I don't need > occasional smoker Barack Obama (or his cocaine-snorting alcoholic > predecessor) telling me how to eat or exercise, or using taxation and > regulation to try to force me to eat and exercise his way. _WE_ don't really care what you, as a egotistical nutter, might think about it. We choose to limit OUR costs and maximize OUR utility. -- "Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
From: Clark F Morris on 26 Jul 2010 11:37
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:36:54 -0500, Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REMOVETHISFOR(a)NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote: >On 7/24/2010 9:48 PM, Clark F Morris wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:05:23 -0500, Rich Piehl >> <rpiehl5REMOVETHISFOR(a)NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote: >> >>>> much snipped >>> >>> This from the person who didn't know that it was the Republicans that >>> brought about civil rights laws in this country - not the democrats. >> >> The 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments were by the Republicans but the >> 1964 Civil Right package was by the Democrats or are you referring to >> some other civil rights laws? > >You need to read the fact check article, too. Since I was actively following politics during the passage of the 1964 civil rights act, my memory of it says it got a higher percentage of republican votes than democrat votes. However it was pushed by LBJ (a Democrat at last report) and the Congressional majority party leadership (Democrat in 1964) so I am baffled by your claim and would be wary of the fact check article without reading it and the underlying sources. Clark Morris |