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From: Noddy on 28 Mar 2010 07:30 "hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in message news:hona2s$gbo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Agree to a point. This City was excellent, but $21K lowest they'd go was > too far over our budget and probably $2K more than I'd have paid for it; > good though it was. "What you get" with a Corolla is a relatively poorly > equipped appliance with adequate dynamics, performance and economy, plus a > diminishingly accurate reputation for impeccable reliability. That wasn't > what we wanted, but it undeniably suits many other people and that's their > prerogative. Agreed. I think the Corolla has become an incredibly over-rated car for the money. They command top end price but offer less than just about anything else in their class other than the "Toyota" badge on the bonnet, and as you say that's rapidly becoming a "feature" that's hardly worth paying a premium price for. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: hippo on 28 Mar 2010 16:44 Noddy wrote: > > > "Premier" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:hokd0b$2ip$1(a)news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > > > great objective assessment - cant come up with one thing. > > Oh, sorry, I didn't realise you were being serious :) > > It's pretty basic really. If they *want* to improve the Falcon then they > (being Ford) should go back to making cars of the quality that could be had > with the EF or EL range, as they were the last "good" Falcons ever made. > Decent looking car, solid build quality and fairly reliable if you > maintained the cooling system according to the book (which many didn't). > > The problem for Ford is that they'd have to *want* to do so, and given that > doing so would mean spending a fair bit more money per car than they're > currently doing my guess would be that they don't wanna. > > Besides, it's too late anyway. This version of the Falcon will definitely be > the last locally designed and built one. > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > > > All of that, plus what I replied to Oz about 20 posts or so up the list. Cheers -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: hippo on 28 Mar 2010 16:52 D Walford wrote: > > On 27/03/2010 5:32 PM, Noddy wrote: > > > > > I can remember when the BA came out I owned a pretty nice EFII Fairmont, and > > I went down to my local dealer interested in trading it in on a new BA full > > Monty. After a 15 minute test drive I was *so* disappointed with the BA that > > I got back in the EF, told myself that it was a *much* better car and went > > home. > > Mate has owned a series 2 BA for a couple of years, he had a problem > with the central locking and a rattle in the exhaust but no other > problems and he is very hard on cars? > > Daryl > > So maybe the moral of the story is, "Buy a Falcon, treat it like a taxi and all will be well." -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: hippo on 28 Mar 2010 16:56 Dan--- wrote: > > "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message > news:4bac7816$0$11291$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... > > > > > > > I've no doubt they will, but it'll be *after* they've closed the gates on > > the production plant for the last time when they're sitting around > > scratching their heads wondering what went wrong,. > > I call it the prime minister effect. :-) > > --- > Regards > Dan. > > > > There's an idea. Give everyone $2K to get them insulated.... -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: Daryl Walford on 28 Mar 2010 18:09
On 28/03/2010 10:30 PM, Noddy wrote: > "hippo"<am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in > message news:hona2s$gbo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> Agree to a point. This City was excellent, but $21K lowest they'd go was >> too far over our budget and probably $2K more than I'd have paid for it; >> good though it was. "What you get" with a Corolla is a relatively poorly >> equipped appliance with adequate dynamics, performance and economy, plus a >> diminishingly accurate reputation for impeccable reliability. That wasn't >> what we wanted, but it undeniably suits many other people and that's their >> prerogative. > > Agreed. > > I think the Corolla has become an incredibly over-rated car for the money. > They command top end price but offer less than just about anything else in > their class other than the "Toyota" badge on the bonnet, and as you say > that's rapidly becoming a "feature" that's hardly worth paying a premium > price for. A mate visiting from Qld for the wedding a couple of weeks ago hired a new Corolla, being a rental it was the base model but the only equipment it lacked was cruise control, it was an excellent car and if you check the new price its not much more expensive than equivalent Jap cars and you get the price difference back when it was time to trade it. RRP Prices for base model manual hatchbacks from manufacturers web sites. Corolla $24,797 Mazda 3 $24,419 Honda Civic $23,999 Nissan Tiida $20,612 Impreza $23,990 Hyundai Elantra and I30 are about $4000-4500 cheaper, I30 is about $1000 more than the Elantra. Honda Jazz is much smaller so in a different size class. The Corolla is the most expensive but there is sfa in it and equipment levels on current models are very comparable. If I was buying a car in that class I'd buy the Impreza, it would probably be the least fuel efficient of the lot but I like the AWD and the quality feel of the things especially the superior paint quality. Daryl |