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From: D Walford on 31 Mar 2010 06:17 On 31/03/2010 12:36 PM, Clocky wrote: > D Walford wrote: >> On 30/03/2010 9:23 PM, Noddy wrote: >> >>> Being the fussy owner that he is, he went along to his local Toyota >>> dealer to get a replacement (he was actually over there to pick up >>> some other stuff but enquired about it while he was there) and >>> according to him this inch and a half square wafer thin little 3 >>> cents worth of plastic trim panel costs 40 bucks to replace. >>> >>> Needless to say, he got whatever else he needed and walked out minus >>> the trim panel, and seems happy to drive the Cruiser around with a >>> hole in the rear :) >> >> Spare parts prices can rarely be justified but $40.00 for a tiny bit >> of plastic is nothing short of highway robbery. >> I'm far from suggesting that Toyota parts are cheap because I know >> they aren't but Clocky is suggesting that an Astra and other Euro >> cars are cheaper to own and run than a Corolla which IMO is ludicrous >> especially with their reputation for eating brakes and T belts. >> > > So you're happy to pay $80 for a Toyota air filter over a $10 Astra one but > you have a problem with putting a set of $80 rotors on an Astra at 80,000km > as a service item? You see where this is headed? I've never paid $80 for any Toyota air filter, the TD Hilux filter cost me about $50.00 and its about twice the size of the filter in any small car, I haven't owned a Corolla since 2006 so I would know what the current price is for a Corolla air filter but I knwo I have never paid even close to $80. If Astra brake parts are as cheap as you say then it seems a lot of people are being ripped off because all the owners who mentioned how expensive the things were complained they didn't get much change from $500 for an Astra front pad and rotor change and all of them complained that they needed changing every 40,000klms. > > Astra's were worked out to be cheaper when *everything* is factored in, > which is the bit you're having trouble with. If that was the case why do owners complain about how expensive they are to maintain? > > I priced up a fuel pump for Camry not long ago, it was $1100 and a new TCM > for a RAV4 was $1600. An electric window master switch was over a $1000 FFS, > rediculous. > > Toyota spare parts, even service items, are hideously expensive. Seems the Toyota spare parts bloke doesn't like you, tell me the exact models and I'll check those prices:-) I bought lots of parts for the AE86 when I was installing the 4AGZE and even despite a couple of suspension parts being needed to be imported from Japan none were overly expensive. People complain about Honda parts prices but I've never found then to be over the top expensive, I even found some genuine parts for a Prelude were cheaper than aftermarket, a genuine T belt was half the price of an after market belt, I was even amazed that a genuine rear muffler was cheaper. Daryl
From: Clocky on 31 Mar 2010 09:17 D Walford wrote: > On 31/03/2010 12:36 PM, Clocky wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >>> On 30/03/2010 9:23 PM, Noddy wrote: >>> >>>> Being the fussy owner that he is, he went along to his local Toyota >>>> dealer to get a replacement (he was actually over there to pick up >>>> some other stuff but enquired about it while he was there) and >>>> according to him this inch and a half square wafer thin little 3 >>>> cents worth of plastic trim panel costs 40 bucks to replace. >>>> >>>> Needless to say, he got whatever else he needed and walked out >>>> minus the trim panel, and seems happy to drive the Cruiser around >>>> with a hole in the rear :) >>> >>> Spare parts prices can rarely be justified but $40.00 for a tiny bit >>> of plastic is nothing short of highway robbery. >>> I'm far from suggesting that Toyota parts are cheap because I know >>> they aren't but Clocky is suggesting that an Astra and other Euro >>> cars are cheaper to own and run than a Corolla which IMO is >>> ludicrous especially with their reputation for eating brakes and T >>> belts. >> >> So you're happy to pay $80 for a Toyota air filter over a $10 Astra >> one but you have a problem with putting a set of $80 rotors on an >> Astra at 80,000km as a service item? You see where this is headed? > > I've never paid $80 for any Toyota air filter, the TD Hilux filter > cost me about $50.00 and its about twice the size of the filter in > any small car, I haven't owned a Corolla since 2006 so I would know > what the current price is for a Corolla air filter but I knwo I have > never paid even close to $80. > If Astra brake parts are as cheap as you say then it seems a lot of > people are being ripped off because all the owners who mentioned how > expensive the things were complained they didn't get much change from > $500 for an Astra front pad and rotor change and all of them > complained that they needed changing every 40,000klms. >> >> Astra's were worked out to be cheaper when *everything* is factored >> in, which is the bit you're having trouble with. > > If that was the case why do owners complain about how expensive they > are to maintain? >> >> I priced up a fuel pump for Camry not long ago, it was $1100 and a >> new TCM for a RAV4 was $1600. An electric window master switch was >> over a $1000 FFS, rediculous. >> >> Toyota spare parts, even service items, are hideously expensive. > > Seems the Toyota spare parts bloke doesn't like you, tell me the exact > models and I'll check those prices:-) > I bought lots of parts for the AE86 when I was installing the 4AGZE > and even despite a couple of suspension parts being needed to be > imported from Japan none were overly expensive. > People complain about Honda parts prices but I've never found then to > be over the top expensive, I even found some genuine parts for a > Prelude were cheaper than aftermarket, a genuine T belt was half the > price of an after market belt, I was even amazed that a genuine rear > muffler was cheaper. > Uh-huh...
From: Clocky on 31 Mar 2010 09:27
D Walford wrote: > On 31/03/2010 1:15 PM, Clocky wrote: > >> Oh, so now it's not about service items, make up your mind or are >> you going to keep shifting goalposts? Brakes including rotors and >> timing belts are service items FYI. > > Bullshit, show me on any vehicle service schedule where its says to > replace pads and rotors at a set number of klms like you would with an > oil filter etc, it will say to inspect the pads and rotors but no one > replaces those items at a set number of klms if they don't need to be > replaced, in the case of Astras they need to be replaced a lot more > frequently than on most cars especially non Euro cars. Service items are items that wear and need to be done as a matter of course, when neccesary. Brakes fall into that category, obviously. > You are the only person who believes that that is a myth. > I didn't say it was a myth, but the nonsense you spout is myth based. None of which changes the fact that to own and operate an Astra was cheaper than that of a Corolla, all things considered. |