From: Clocky on 25 Mar 2010 19:03
>> The current Falcon is apalling and deserves to be put to rest.
> On what grounds???? How would you improve it???
Ford already know what they need to do...
From: bob on 25 Mar 2010 19:04
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:16:08 +1100, "Noddy"
<Mission.Control(a)NASA.com>, after considering some belly-button fluf,
>There was a small article in this morning's Herald Sun where Ford announced
>late yesterday afternoon that the Falcon station wagon has reached the end
>of it's production life, and as of now is no longer part of the Ford model
>line up. After 50 years, production effectively ceased yesterday and the
>model is now confined to the history books.
>They also claimed that the Falcon Wagon will be replaced by some Mondeo
>something or other with the option of both diesel and petrol powerplants,
>although they didn't give any specifics about exactly what it would be or
>where it would come from.
>The death of the big wagon has been on the books for ages, and given that
>the thing has largley been neglected by Ford in terms of the antiquated
>equipment it was being furnished with in it's last few models it can hardly
>come as a surprise to anyone that the thing is now dead and buried, however
>I see this announcement as a prelude to the death of the Falcon as a locally
>built car before very long.
>The FG model is not doing well in the sales department (it's currently
>being outsold by Toyota, Holden and Hyundai), and the Territory is currently
>selling less units per month than the Mitsubishi 380 was when it was finally
>The rot has very definitely set in at Broadmeadows, and it won't be long
>before local production is wound down methinks.
If Ford had of upgraded the wagon over the years then perhaps they
might sell more. Holden have proved there is still a market out there
for wagon buyers.The VE wagon is a good looking car and you can order
V6 Or V8, manual or auto.(although no V6 manual is available). Hell I
buy wagons all the time for work. Would I buy a Falcon Wagon? Not
bloody likely. Leaf springs on the rear, no rear sway bar. No V8. No
manual gearbox. The list goes on. The same thing happened with the
Fairlane. They chose not to keep the car looking new.
Again Holden did keep the styling up to date with the Statesman. The
sales figures say it all.
Ford's biggest problem is their attitude. Instead of building cars to
customers needs, all they do is say "this is the car take it or leave
And don't get me started on their warranty issues.
The parts they now build cars with are rubbish.
Look at the past problems that Falcons have had in the last 10 years.
The BA or "Badly Assembled" as I call it.
Brake rotors.Brake hoses, Radiators that rot and fill autos with
water. Rear windows that break for no reason.Paint issues. Steering
racks that won't last 100,000 klms. Interior plastics that are
rubbish. Rear suspension bushes on sedans that won't last 80,000klms.
Electrical issues. Even spark plugs snapping of in the head because
Ford didn't put never seize on the threads.
The Falcon of today is a long way from the older models.
Value for money? No.
From: Clocky on 25 Mar 2010 19:06
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:17:26 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com>
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> There was a small article in this morning's Herald Sun where Ford
>>> announced late yesterday afternoon that the Falcon station wagon has
>>> reached the end of it's production life, and as of now is no longer
>>> part of the Ford model line up. After 50 years, production
>>> effectively ceased yesterday and the model is now confined to the
>>> history books.
>>> They also claimed that the Falcon Wagon will be replaced by some
>>> Mondeo something or other with the option of both diesel and petrol
>>> powerplants, although they didn't give any specifics about exactly
>>> what it would be or where it would come from.
>>> The death of the big wagon has been on the books for ages, and given
>>> that the thing has largley been neglected by Ford in terms of the
>>> antiquated equipment it was being furnished with in it's last few
>>> models it can hardly come as a surprise to anyone that the thing is
>>> now dead and buried, however I see this announcement as a prelude to
>>> the death of the Falcon as a locally built car before very long.
>>> The FG model is not doing well in the sales department (it's
>>> currently being outsold by Toyota, Holden and Hyundai), and the
>>> Territory is currently selling less units per month than the
>>> Mitsubishi 380 was when it was finally canned.
>>> The rot has very definitely set in at Broadmeadows, and it won't be
>>> long before local production is wound down methinks.
>> Ford have already announced that the Falcon is due to be canned in
>> 2012 which effectively kills local production.
> What's the loss?
> The Falcon got bigger and bigger until it outgrew it's customer base.
> The Mondeo has kept growing until it's in a place where customers want
> their wagons.
Right, no loss at all.
The market has shifted and Ford didn't shift with the market and cost
cutting alone isn't going to keep a car viable.
From: Noddy on 25 Mar 2010 21:47
"Dan---" <hsvtourer(a)hsv.co.uk.com.au> wrote in message
> Yeah they have certainly cornered the market well in such a short time.
> Now we wait for Hatz's retort to point and laugh at.
That should be good for a laugh :)
> Yeah the lack of colours is a downside although ours ironically its the
> same colour as the HSV Phantom black.
The only one they had on the showroom floor on Wednesday was "Bronze", but
it's actually more of a gunmetal grey in the flesh. Of all of them I think
the white one looks best myself.
From: Noddy on 25 Mar 2010 21:54
"D Walford" <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message
> Its a sad day for Aussie car buyers when our locally made cars have sunk
> to be less well made than any Korean car.
Then it's a sad day indeed, because that they very truly have done.