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From: Premier on 27 Mar 2010 03:43 > >> On what grounds???? How would you improve it??? > > Stop making it :) > > -- great objective assessment - cant come up with one thing.
From: Dan--- on 27 Mar 2010 04:01 "Premier" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:hokcsv$2hh$1(a)news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > > Magna did in the 80's with ads stating along the lines of that you really > dont need a six and this was a large car. So they did pitch directly into > the market of Falcon/Commodore buyers. Mitsubishi did a deal with the oil companies too back then as well. :p Also they were not all that economical as well and transmission made out of plastic too --- Regards Dan.
From: D Walford on 27 Mar 2010 04:48 On 27/03/2010 6:42 PM, Premier wrote: >>> No car has really made any inroads into the Falcon/Holden domination >>> - with the possible exception of the Magna in the mid 80's up to the >>> early 90's (it sold about 40,000 one year by memory - and I bet many >>> of these would have come from Falcon/Commodore sales) - but of course >>> we know what happened later. >> >> You've obviously not heard of a car called the "Corolla". You might >> have seen a few about. It's currently the number two selling car in >> the country, and it has outsold the Falcon consistently for a number >> of years now. > > > Yes heard of the Corolla. Also heard of the Hilux, and the Mazda 3. My > point was to do with cars that have pitched themselves directly against > Falcon/Commodore. No one has bothered to do that because there is no point, that type of car is loosing market share at a big rate, there is a huge variety of cars in the market that better suit people who previously bought Falcodores. > > Magna did in the 80's with ads stating along the lines of that you > really dont need a six and this was a large car. So they did pitch > directly into the market of Falcon/Commodore buyers. Might have worked in the 80's when big sedans were still popular but not any more when there is so much more to choose from. Daryl
From: Noddy on 27 Mar 2010 04:46 "Premier" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:hokcsv$2hh$1(a)news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > Yes heard of the Corolla. Also heard of the Hilux, and the Mazda 3. My > point was to do with cars that have pitched themselves directly against > Falcon/Commodore. > > Magna did in the 80's with ads stating along the lines of that you really > dont need a six and this was a large car. So they did pitch directly into > the market of Falcon/Commodore buyers. To date, the only car that was pitched at the Holden and Falcon that was truly on *equal* footing has been the Valiant., and that suffered the exact same fate as the Magna and for the same reason. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 27 Mar 2010 04:51
"Premier" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:hokd0b$2ip$1(a)news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > great objective assessment - cant come up with one thing. Oh, sorry, I didn't realise you were being serious :) It's pretty basic really. If they *want* to improve the Falcon then they (being Ford) should go back to making cars of the quality that could be had with the EF or EL range, as they were the last "good" Falcons ever made. Decent looking car, solid build quality and fairly reliable if you maintained the cooling system according to the book (which many didn't). The problem for Ford is that they'd have to *want* to do so, and given that doing so would mean spending a fair bit more money per car than they're currently doing my guess would be that they don't wanna. Besides, it's too late anyway. This version of the Falcon will definitely be the last locally designed and built one. -- Regards, Noddy. |