From: Chris Whelan on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:24:50 +0000, Adrian wrote:

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> I love T'bird as a mail client, but not as a news client. I'm reasonably
> happy with Pan - it's about the least-worst out there.

Indeed; I've tried lots of others, but still come back to Pan.

I'm guessing newsreaders are not something that developers are going to
be interested in now, sadly.

Chris

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From: Mike Tomlinson on
In article <Tel1o.197059$9c1.167806(a)hurricane>, Cicero
<sheldrake(a)hellfire.co.uk> writes

>Is this a record? I seem to have sent the same reply four times - no idea
>how, but apologies to anybody who thinks their drink has been spiked.

Someone in uk.comp.homebuilt just did exactly the same thing. You're
both using Pan (he 0.133, you 0.132).

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From: Mike Tomlinson on
In article <8Jl1o.197061$9c1.87292(a)hurricane>, Cicero
<sheldrake(a)hellfire.co.uk> writes

>It isn't a case of thinking it's been badly maintained. It's really that
>I like to know exactly what the position is. The car is nearly 9 years
>old with a decent service history but I like to check everything for
>myself before I drive a new car.

You're wasting your time and money flushing it. It's a nine year old
French car, for heaven's sake. It's a banger.

Just get the oil hot so that it drains more readily then change it and
the filter. Job done.

> If anything has been neglected I want to
>put it right before it can get worse.

If neglect extends to infrequent or no oil changes, the damage is
already done and no amount of flushing will fix it.

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From: Chris Whelan on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:40:25 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

[...]

> Someone in uk.comp.homebuilt just did exactly the same thing

<Waves hand>

Chris

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From: Cicero on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:43:54 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

> In article <8Jl1o.197061$9c1.87292(a)hurricane>, Cicero
> <sheldrake(a)hellfire.co.uk> writes
>
>>It isn't a case of thinking it's been badly maintained. It's really that
>>I like to know exactly what the position is. The car is nearly 9 years
>>old with a decent service history but I like to check everything for
>>myself before I drive a new car.
>
> You're wasting your time and money flushing it. It's a nine year old
> French car, for heaven's sake. It's a banger.
>
> Just get the oil hot so that it drains more readily then change it and
> the filter. Job done.
>
>> If anything has been neglected I want to
>>put it right before it can get worse.
>
> If neglect extends to infrequent or no oil changes, the damage is
> already done and no amount of flushing will fix it.

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You and I obviously have different ideas as to what constitutes a
'banger'. I don't think a car should be discarded just because the
ashtrays are full and the paintwork has become a bit dull.

These Peugeot cars have a 12 year corrosion warranty (not that I expect
to be able to claim) and as far as I can see they do last in good rust-
free condition. Cars of this age can have a very good life expectancy if
you're prepared to spend a bit of money. Many cars are scrapped for the
most trivial of reasons. I prefer to rescue a solid reliable car which
will give me good service at minimal cost.

The oil flush and change is just one aspect of the work I'm doing but a
car with good service history and just 74000 miles on the clock is well
worth a bit of effort and money.

Your motoring needs may differ from mine but you might try doing the same
kind of rescue that I'm doing and you might be agreeably surprised.

Cic.



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