From: Adrian on
Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>>> Agreed, change the oil every year or ~10k. Wouldn't worry too much
>>> about the super-dooperness of the oil, only the grade as the Diesels
>>> from this period aren't all that sophisticated.

>> It'll be an HDi common-rail.

> Ah, so it will be sophisticated enough, but still not exactly highly
> stressed in a 306.

Indeed. Especially since it'll be the lower-tune, non-intercooled 90bhp
version.
From: Douglas Payne on
Andy Cap wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:53:59 +0100, Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote:
>
>>> A nine year old French car, by definition, has to be a banger.
>> Agreed.
>>
>
> I just don't get that at all. Are you suggesting that usage and maintenance
> aren't factors in the condition of any mechanical item. Sure, most are probably
> bangers, but to make that sweeping assertion simply isn't true.

The definition of banger, as said elsewhere is open to interpretation.
To me a banger costs less than maybe �1500 or so.

Not many 9 year old French cars cost much more than that. Some are in
better condition than others, but it's often easier and cheaper to buy
another than fix a duff one. So the truly wrecked examples get scrapped
rather than bodged.

A car with a fuelling or ignition problem won't pass an MOT so they
don't backfire any more either.

--
Douglas
From: Doctor D on

> The French don't make solid, reliable cars.

They may not be as solid as some others but I dispute reliability.

Three sets of friends all had 02 plate Scenics. ALL have bought another
newer version within the past year. One, a 1.6 manual, had covered 143k
without a breakdown or a major bill.
Father in law ran a 97 Renault Safrane auto to 125k with scant regard to
servicing with no breakdowns or big bills. I had an 04 Peugeot 206SW HDi
which I sold to a work colleague at about 117k. Now showing 140k and still
has yet to breakdown. Did have one bill of �600 for a rear axle bearing
failure at 96k but servicing dirt cheap using GSF parts.

I suspect other people can quote otherwise, but I have never found French
cars to be any worse than German or Far Eastern ones.

From: Mike Tomlinson on
In article <8mie46tinv4aeoqhmoanl224s17stgq6ns(a)4ax.com>, Andy Cap
<wmabziuy(a)trashmail.net> writes

>One additonal reason for not using the additive type cleaner - apart from the
>fact that it probably doesn't work - is that the recycling people don't want
>additives added to the recovered oil.

Surely it'd be so diluted so as to not matter?

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From: Rob on
On 22/07/2010 7:14 AM, Doctor D wrote:
>
>> The French don't make solid, reliable cars.
>
> They may not be as solid as some others but I dispute reliability.
>
> Three sets of friends all had 02 plate Scenics. ALL have bought another
> newer version within the past year. One, a 1.6 manual, had covered 143k
> without a breakdown or a major bill.
> Father in law ran a 97 Renault Safrane auto to 125k with scant regard to
> servicing with no breakdowns or big bills. I had an 04 Peugeot 206SW HDi
> which I sold to a work colleague at about 117k. Now showing 140k and
> still has yet to breakdown. Did have one bill of �600 for a rear axle
> bearing failure at 96k but servicing dirt cheap using GSF parts.
>
> I suspect other people can quote otherwise, but I have never found
> French cars to be any worse than German or Far Eastern ones.


tell you what we have a 307 2.0 HDI which BTW was replaced under
warranty at 14000km the replacement which is the next version is
still not a nce car newer again will I consider a Pug. (It suited
requirements and in comparison with others available had the best specs)
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