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From: Adrian on 21 Jul 2010 17:01 Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> Agreed, change the oil every year or ~10k. Wouldn't worry too much >>> about the super-dooperness of the oil, only the grade as the Diesels >>> from this period aren't all that sophisticated. >> It'll be an HDi common-rail. > Ah, so it will be sophisticated enough, but still not exactly highly > stressed in a 306. Indeed. Especially since it'll be the lower-tune, non-intercooled 90bhp version.
From: Douglas Payne on 21 Jul 2010 17:04 Andy Cap wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:53:59 +0100, Douglas Payne <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote: > >>> A nine year old French car, by definition, has to be a banger. >> Agreed. >> > > I just don't get that at all. Are you suggesting that usage and maintenance > aren't factors in the condition of any mechanical item. Sure, most are probably > bangers, but to make that sweeping assertion simply isn't true. The definition of banger, as said elsewhere is open to interpretation. To me a banger costs less than maybe �1500 or so. Not many 9 year old French cars cost much more than that. Some are in better condition than others, but it's often easier and cheaper to buy another than fix a duff one. So the truly wrecked examples get scrapped rather than bodged. A car with a fuelling or ignition problem won't pass an MOT so they don't backfire any more either. -- Douglas
From: Doctor D on 21 Jul 2010 17:14 > The French don't make solid, reliable cars. They may not be as solid as some others but I dispute reliability. Three sets of friends all had 02 plate Scenics. ALL have bought another newer version within the past year. One, a 1.6 manual, had covered 143k without a breakdown or a major bill. Father in law ran a 97 Renault Safrane auto to 125k with scant regard to servicing with no breakdowns or big bills. I had an 04 Peugeot 206SW HDi which I sold to a work colleague at about 117k. Now showing 140k and still has yet to breakdown. Did have one bill of �600 for a rear axle bearing failure at 96k but servicing dirt cheap using GSF parts. I suspect other people can quote otherwise, but I have never found French cars to be any worse than German or Far Eastern ones.
From: Mike Tomlinson on 21 Jul 2010 21:15 In article <8mie46tinv4aeoqhmoanl224s17stgq6ns(a)4ax.com>, Andy Cap <wmabziuy(a)trashmail.net> writes >One additonal reason for not using the additive type cleaner - apart from the >fact that it probably doesn't work - is that the recycling people don't want >additives added to the recovered oil. Surely it'd be so diluted so as to not matter? -- (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
From: Rob on 21 Jul 2010 23:24
On 22/07/2010 7:14 AM, Doctor D wrote: > >> The French don't make solid, reliable cars. > > They may not be as solid as some others but I dispute reliability. > > Three sets of friends all had 02 plate Scenics. ALL have bought another > newer version within the past year. One, a 1.6 manual, had covered 143k > without a breakdown or a major bill. > Father in law ran a 97 Renault Safrane auto to 125k with scant regard to > servicing with no breakdowns or big bills. I had an 04 Peugeot 206SW HDi > which I sold to a work colleague at about 117k. Now showing 140k and > still has yet to breakdown. Did have one bill of �600 for a rear axle > bearing failure at 96k but servicing dirt cheap using GSF parts. > > I suspect other people can quote otherwise, but I have never found > French cars to be any worse than German or Far Eastern ones. tell you what we have a 307 2.0 HDI which BTW was replaced under warranty at 14000km the replacement which is the next version is still not a nce car newer again will I consider a Pug. (It suited requirements and in comparison with others available had the best specs) |