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From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 16 Jun 2010 18:59
On Jun 16, 7:35 pm, John David Galt <j...(a)diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>
wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> > While we grow obese in the First World, the Third World goes hungry.
> > Talk about a jungle...
>
> No one is starving because some Americans are fat.
> Where people are starving it's because their own governments steal from them.
> If we continue on the road to socialism, we'll be that kind of country.
> Which will be no surprise to the leaders of the "green" movement; it was their
> plan for us all along.
> Read "Rules for Radicals".  "President" Soetoro has.

People are starving for many reasons, some of them related to America.

America is growing corn for ethanol.

American corporations benefit from the corruption.

America promotes cash crops instead of sustainable food growing.

America promotes fast food for the world, most of it wasteful meat.

America is not interested in changing the above conditions.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 16 Jun 2010 19:15
On Jun 16, 6:59 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 7:35 pm, John David Galt <j...(a)diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>
> wrote:
>
> > His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> > > While we grow obese in the First World, the Third World goes hungry.
> > > Talk about a jungle...
>
> > No one is starving because some Americans are fat.
> > Where people are starving it's because their own governments steal from them.
> > If we continue on the road to socialism, we'll be that kind of country.
> > Which will be no surprise to the leaders of the "green" movement; it was their
> > plan for us all along.
> > Read "Rules for Radicals".  "President" Soetoro has.
>
> People are starving for many reasons, some of them related to America.
>
> America is growing corn for ethanol.
>
> American corporations benefit from the corruption.
>
> America promotes cash crops instead of sustainable food growing.

Let's elaborate on this last point:

(I quote)

The belief that world hunger can be solved by increasing food
production is an unsubstantiated myth. It has lead to policies by
international organs that have supported farming policies that in
practice have boosted production of expensive export foods on the
expense of production of basic foods for the population.

The real problem is poverty. As the market responds to money and not
to actual need, it can only work to eliminate hunger when purchasing
power is widely dispersed according to Rosset. As the rural poor are
increasingly pushed from land, they are less and less able to demand
for food on the market. Promoting free trade to alleviate hunger has
proven to be a failure. In most developing countries exports have
boomed while hunger has continued unabated or actually worsened
according to the book.

....

Conclusion

The world could feed itself if food policies were based on facts an
not on myths as presently. The fact is that there is no scarcity of
food. The real reason for the world hunger problem is poverty. This
requires political and not agrotechnical solutions.

http://www.psrast.org/nowohu.htm



From: John David Galt on 20 Jun 2010 02:37
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> People are starving for many reasons, some of them related to America.
>
> America is growing corn for ethanol.

That one I'll buy. ADM, and the Congresscritters in their pay, should be in
jail.

> American corporations benefit from the corruption.

Agree. The Left are not enemies of corporate fascism, they're leaders in it.

> America promotes cash crops instead of sustainable food growing.

Because the federal government subsidizes water projects and, in return,
requires farmers get theirs at a discount.

> America promotes fast food for the world, most of it wasteful meat.

There's nothing wasteful about meat. The people of India and China would be
able to afford it if they'd stop breeding babies they can't afford to feed.
From: Phlip on 20 Jun 2010 11:36
> No one is starving because some Americans are fat.

However, nobody is starving because they are lazy, either (or because
their gov'ts are "too socialist").

Them belly full, but we hungry;
A hungry mob is a angry mob.
A rain a-fall, but the dirt it tough;
A pot it cook, but d' food no 'nough.
-- Bob Marley
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 20 Jun 2010 12:02
On Jun 20, 8:36 am, Phlip <phlip2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > No one is starving because some Americans are fat.
>
> However, nobody is starving because they are lazy, either (or because
> their gov'ts are "too socialist").
>
> Them belly full, but we hungry;
> A hungry mob is a angry mob.
> A rain a-fall, but the dirt it tough;
> A pot it cook, but d' food no 'nough.
>            -- Bob Marley

I think the Right Wingers love immigration (besides the fact that they
provide cheap labor)...

A hungry people become immigrants of the countries where people are
fat.

Mexican Nortena song dedicated to the friend that left for
"Paradise" (USA) and dies in the process...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHEdwl8Wa5c

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