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From: Mike Barnes on 27 Jul 2010 11:17 "Nkosi (ama-ecosse)" <minankosi(a)googlemail.com>: >why do some people think overtaking is illegal >when you overtake them. 2 mile straight, "A" road (wide) NSL they are >doing 35-40max you overtake the poop and perform flashing lights and >hooter because .... you woke them up. -- Mike Barnes
From: Harry Bloomfield on 29 Jul 2010 13:04 Nkosi (ama-ecosse) wrote on 27/07/2010 : > Horses for courses, why do some people think overtaking is illegal > when you overtake them. 2 mile straight, "A" road (wide) NSL they are > doing 35-40max you overtake the poop and perform flashing lights and > hooter because there was an oncoming car in the distance. Yoou could > have overtaken them twice in the time it took the oncoming car is > level with them. Indeed you were 400m infront of the overtaken car > when you passed the oncoming car. I more often get this from the overtaken, but even those approaching from the opposite direction do sometimes flash long after I have pulled back in after the maneuver. I do think that there is an 'illegal to overtake mentality'. Tackle it in the right way, with good judgement plus confidence and it is a perfectly safe maneuver. Start it with limited vision from tight up behind the vehicle you want to overtake and it can go very wrong. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
From: Mortimer on 29 Jul 2010 17:31 "Harry Bloomfield" <harry.m1byt(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:mn.ec3c7da7e887cea0.106911(a)NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk... > Nkosi (ama-ecosse) wrote on 27/07/2010 : >> Horses for courses, why do some people think overtaking is illegal >> when you overtake them. 2 mile straight, "A" road (wide) NSL they are >> doing 35-40max you overtake the poop and perform flashing lights and >> hooter because there was an oncoming car in the distance. Yoou could >> have overtaken them twice in the time it took the oncoming car is >> level with them. Indeed you were 400m infront of the overtaken car >> when you passed the oncoming car. > > I more often get this from the overtaken, but even those approaching from > the opposite direction do sometimes flash long after I have pulled back in > after the maneuver. I do think that there is an 'illegal to overtake > mentality'. > > Tackle it in the right way, with good judgement plus confidence and it is > a perfectly safe maneuver. Start it with limited vision from tight up > behind the vehicle you want to overtake and it can go very wrong. If I'm the oncoming car and I see a car pull out when there isn't much gap, I'll usually give a quick flash just to make certain he's seen me. If he's so close that I have to I have to brake hard, it's a long continuous flash and continuous horn to say "I'm here, you are about to hit me - abort the overtake NOW!". But those are the only times I flash an oncoming overtaking car. To flash after it's back on its own side is pointless. If I'm overtaken, the only time I might flash (briefly) is if the car has cut it a bit fine and might need confirmation that his back end is clear of me so he knows it's safe for him to pull in to avoid the oncoming car. This applies more if the overtaking vehicle is a long HGV or a car towing a caravan, but I don't often travel slowly enough for those vehicles to need to overtake me. Positioning for overtaking is vital. If you stay far enough back, you can see that the road is clear, without having to venture out and then abort because you can now see an oncoming car. Being in the right gear so you have good acceleration is important too. Very often the drivers who overtake when there's insufficient space from an oncoming car try to do so in top gear so they've not got the acceleration to get past me quickly and instead stay level with me. More than once I've seen this situation develop and had to brake hard to give the overtaking driver room to pull in ahead of me because the oncoming car is getting too close for comfort.
From: Harry Bloomfield on 30 Jul 2010 15:34
Mortimer brought next idea : > Positioning for overtaking is vital. If you stay far enough back, you can see > that the road is clear, without having to venture out and then abort because > you can now see an oncoming car. Being in the right gear so you have good > acceleration is important too. The extra space can also give you the room to abort the maneuver, should you need to change your mind. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |