Ford's "Easy Fuel" capless fuel filler?
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From: CWLee on 21 Nov 2009 11:48 I just learned that the 2010 (and perhaps earlier) Ford Explorers, and other Ford models, have what Ford calls "Easy Fuel" capless fuel fillers. As near as I can tell, instead of unscrewing a cap, one inserts the gas pump nozzle into an opening which automatically moves aside for fueling, and immediately closes when the nozzle is withdrawn. So far, no problems. I also learned that one can buy a locking cover, to protect your gas tank from someone siphoning gas out. However, Ford says on one of its websites that it is almost impossible to siphon gas out, due to a second "one-way valve" on the tank where the filler attaches. That sounds OK to me too. Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced. The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump. Suppose you run out of gas, and need to add gas from a plastic 2- or 5-gallon gas can? Can one do it, or does that second "one-way valve" deep into the filler keep the gas from entering the tank? Has anyone here been successful in adding gas (other than at a gas station) to a Ford which is equipped with this relatively new device? Thanks. -- ---------- CWLee Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and promote for performance, not preferences.
From: Mike Romain on 21 Nov 2009 14:46 CWLee wrote: > > Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced. > The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY > with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump. Gas pump nozzles have been like that for years, ever since unleaded gas came in. The pump nozzle for unleaded gas is smaller than one for leaded gas so you can't put leaded in by mistake. They also make gas cans nozzles 'unleaded' size and gravity gets by the internal 'valve' I have even seen those one way anti siphon 'valves' as a simple coil spring inside the tube. Mike 2000 Cherokee Sport 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
From: ChrisCoaster on 21 Nov 2009 15:58 On Nov 21, 2:46 pm, Mike Romain <roma...(a)nospam.live.com> wrote: > CWLee wrote: > > > Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced. > > The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY > > with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump. > > Gas pump nozzles have been like that for years, ever since unleaded gas > came in. The pump nozzle for unleaded gas is smaller than one for > leaded gas so you can't put leaded in by mistake. > > They also make gas cans nozzles 'unleaded' size and gravity gets by the > internal 'valve' I have even seen those one way anti siphon 'valves' as > a simple coil spring inside the tube. > > Mike > 2000 Cherokee Sport > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and > Build Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com _________________________ I see this "capless filler" as a GOOD example of NASCAR making it's way too far into public life. And something else enters my mind when I think about Ford's new innovation - it starts with the letter "f" and ends in smoke... -CC
From: dsi1 on 21 Nov 2009 17:06 Mike Romain wrote: > CWLee wrote: >> > >> Here is the potential problem I'm wondering if any of you have faced. >> The website also suggests that gas can be placed into your tank ONLY >> with a properly sized nozzle from a gas pump. > > Gas pump nozzles have been like that for years, ever since unleaded gas > came in. The pump nozzle for unleaded gas is smaller than one for > leaded gas so you can't put leaded in by mistake. > > They also make gas cans nozzles 'unleaded' size and gravity gets by the > internal 'valve' I have even seen those one way anti siphon 'valves' as > a simple coil spring inside the tube. My 67 Barracuda had a quick-fill chrome cap that you opened by pressing on the release on the side and flipped it open. That was certainly " "boss." My mother 70 Barracuda had the filler located behind the spring loaded license plate holder. That was "not too cool." I'm glad that they're trying to make gimmicky gas fillers again. > > Mike > 2000 Cherokee Sport > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and > Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
From: Scott Dorsey on 21 Nov 2009 17:49
dsi1 <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote: > >My 67 Barracuda had a quick-fill chrome cap that you opened by pressing >on the release on the side and flipped it open. That was certainly " >"boss." My mother 70 Barracuda had the filler located behind the spring >loaded license plate holder. That was "not too cool." I'm glad that >they're trying to make gimmicky gas fillers again. Agreed. The current Ford system is definitely "far out." Since the current generation of gas cans has a nozzle specifically designed to fit like the filler nozzle on the pump, I don't see that it would be any issue. "Totally wicked" quick-fill systems should function in a "groovy way" with the modern cans. There are some old cans out there that don't have a long nozzle on them, just a short spout. Those would work with cars designed for leaded gas, but when unleaded came along the modern narrow nozzle standard came out specifically to prevent "hodads" from pouring leaded gas into a car designed only for unleaded. --scott > >> >> Mike >> 2000 Cherokee Sport >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and >> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |