From: Clive on
In message <0f4646pc5d2fui2q4233me3avpie0i6r7i(a)4ax.com>, edward ohare
<edward_ohare(a)nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> writes
>I suspect a number of people in Europe do not understand the size of
>Chrysler in the late 90s and how PROFITABLE the company was.
We know of complete firms owned by them that crashed, such as the
"Rootes group"
--
Clive

From: edward ohare on
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:50:52 +0100, Clive <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <0f4646pc5d2fui2q4233me3avpie0i6r7i(a)4ax.com>, edward ohare
><edward_ohare(a)nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> writes
>>I suspect a number of people in Europe do not understand the size of
>>Chrysler in the late 90s and how PROFITABLE the company was.
>We know of complete firms owned by them that crashed, such as the
>"Rootes group"

Crashing a sick company is a lot different than crashing a healthy
one.

It is most obvious that Chrysler's management in the 60s and 70s did
not know what it needed to know to turn around junk companies selling
cars sized for roads built for Roman chariots.

It is most obvious Mercedes management did not know what it needed to
know to continue the success of a very successful company selling low
and medium priced cars in the worlds largest auto market.
From: Clive on
In message <5o874611g11tmdmf9cg4km2ddg6rm2ggg4(a)4ax.com>, edward ohare
<edward_ohare(a)nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> writes
>On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:50:52 +0100, Clive <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>In message <0f4646pc5d2fui2q4233me3avpie0i6r7i(a)4ax.com>, edward ohare
>><edward_ohare(a)nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> writes
>>>I suspect a number of people in Europe do not understand the size of
>>>Chrysler in the late 90s and how PROFITABLE the company was.
>>We know of complete firms owned by them that crashed, such as the
>>"Rootes group"
>Crashing a sick company is a lot different than crashing a healthy
>one.
>It is most obvious that Chrysler's management in the 60s and 70s did
>not know what it needed to know to turn around junk companies selling
>cars sized for roads built for Roman chariots.
>It is most obvious Mercedes management did not know what it needed to
>know to continue the success of a very successful company selling low
>and medium priced cars in the worlds largest auto market.
Knowing about both Chrysler and Fiat, I believe it's a case of the blind
leading the blind. If you Merkins buy Fiats, I'll know you don't
recognise quality, even the Italians are avoiding them and their market
share is continuing to drop.
I'm happy to wait and see what happens.
--
Clive

From: edward ohare on
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:18:18 +0100, Clive <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk>
wrote:


>Knowing about both Chrysler and Fiat, I believe it's a case of the blind
>leading the blind. If you Merkins buy Fiats, I'll know you don't
>recognise quality, even the Italians are avoiding them and their market
>share is continuing to drop.
>I'm happy to wait and see what happens.

Why would there be a question in your mind about whether we'd buy
Fiats with a Chrysler or Dodge nameplate on them. We aren't buying
Mitsubishis with Chrysler or Dodge nameplate on them.

Course, we're not buying any of the goofy stuff Jergen Schrempp etal
came up with either. Which is the real point which you've dodged.
From: Bjorn on

Germany’s BMW The Bavarian carmaker is making a new plug-in electric
car.
It is one of the first designed from scratch to use an
electric motor rather than being converted from an existing model
and to use no steel.

The car is built as two modules: an aluminum chassis
containing the electric drive-system and battery, and a body
made almost entirely of carbon fiber is fitted onto it.

Carbon fiber is 30% lighter than aluminum and 50% lighter than
steel. The fibers are extremely tear-resistant. When woven into a
lattice structure and impregnated with resin they can produce a
part that is stronger than steel.

Carbon fiber is an expensive alternative to steel or aluminum,
but besides being extremely strong it is also very light. It is found
in high-performance parts, such as aircraft wings, bits of super-
cars, and the frames of pricey mountain bikes.

This car has a driving range of 600 km before a recharge is needed.
The price for the base model is 19.876 Euros.
Because of the extended range BMW is the first real mass produced
electrical alternative to hybrids.

BMW has created before this created long range electrical light weight
motorbikes.

More technical details are available at the official BMW website.