From: Duncan Wood on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:00:28 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:12:02 +0000 (UTC), "steve robinson"
> <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> Out of interest I wonder if stick still prevails in any major way
>>> anywhere? Many ships, bridges, tanks and skyscrapers were built
>>> using it over a fair period of time.
>>
>> Stick is still very common in the construction and heavy engineering
>> industry where the use of mig is limited because of the need to hump
>> gas bottles and deeper penetration of weld is needed
>>>
>
> Thanks for the replies guys.
>
> So, 'gassless MIG' (good 'outside') should solve the humping problem
> so then it's just the depth_of_weld that's left (as MIG produces a
> more reliable weld as seen by scans etc)?
>
> I wonder if they do the range of wire as they do with sticks. A mate
> gave me a welding rod the other day that (apparently) allowed you to
> rebuild a sprocket or gear tooth (very hard material).
>
> I've got a little job to do that requires welding some nuts on the
> back of some angle (tie-down eyebolts to go inside a trailer) and I'm
> not sure if I do some very small tacks and cool each with a damp rag I
> might do so and be able to use a Nylock nut?
>
> Cheers, T i m
>
>

I normally use an aerotight nut for that.
From: Dave Baker on
"T i m" <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote in message
news:pn5a565scoho9uliei55dj0paks75r86hq(a)4ax.com...
> I've got a little job to do that requires welding some nuts on the
> back of some angle (tie-down eyebolts to go inside a trailer) and I'm
> not sure if I do some very small tacks and cool each with a damp rag I
> might do so and be able to use a Nylock nut?
>
> Cheers, T i m

I doubt it but there are all-metal Philidas locking nuts like the rocker
nuts on the Ford CVH engine which would work. I've got dozens of old ones if
an 8mm thread would do you. They're flanged ones like these.

http://www.philidasfasteners.co.uk/prod_flange.htm

I could nip the flanges off on the lathe if that would help but you could
just weld round the flange anyway.
--
Dave Baker


From: T i m on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:18:30 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
<nntpnews(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:


>> I've got a little job to do that requires welding some nuts on the
>> back of some angle (tie-down eyebolts to go inside a trailer) and I'm
>> not sure if I do some very small tacks and cool each with a damp rag I
>> might do so and be able to use a Nylock nut?

>>
>
>I normally use an aerotight nut for that.

<Quick Google> Ah, those, ta.

I've found them on stuff but never bought any.

So, do they actually 'lock' in use or would they allow something like
said eyebolt to be removed by hand would you think please? I was
looking for some resistance to stop them undoing if in the trailer and
unused but to be removable by hand if they were in the way.

Cheers, T i m

From: T i m on
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 12:45:52 +0100, "Dave Baker" <Null(a)null.com> wrote:

>"T i m" <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:pn5a565scoho9uliei55dj0paks75r86hq(a)4ax.com...
>> I've got a little job to do that requires welding some nuts on the
>> back of some angle (tie-down eyebolts to go inside a trailer) and I'm
>> not sure if I do some very small tacks and cool each with a damp rag I
>> might do so and be able to use a Nylock nut?
>>
>
>I doubt it but there are all-metal Philidas locking nuts like the rocker
>nuts on the Ford CVH engine which would work. I've got dozens of old ones if
>an 8mm thread would do you.

Thanks very much for the offer Dave but these are 10mm x summat.

> They're flanged ones like these.
>
>http://www.philidasfasteners.co.uk/prod_flange.htm

Ah, ok. So they would provide resistance that could be overcome by
hand on a 40mm diameter eyebolt ring would you think please?
>
>I could nip the flanges off on the lathe if that would help but you could
>just weld round the flange anyway.

Indeed (but thanks again).

Cheers, T i m

From: Duncan Wood on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:56:42 +0100, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:18:30 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
> <nntpnews(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>> I've got a little job to do that requires welding some nuts on the
>>> back of some angle (tie-down eyebolts to go inside a trailer) and I'm
>>> not sure if I do some very small tacks and cool each with a damp rag I
>>> might do so and be able to use a Nylock nut?
>
>>>
>>
>> I normally use an aerotight nut for that.
>
> <Quick Google> Ah, those, ta.
>
> I've found them on stuff but never bought any.
>
> So, do they actually 'lock' in use or would they allow something like
> said eyebolt to be removed by hand would you think please? I was
> looking for some resistance to stop them undoing if in the trailer and
> unused but to be removable by hand if they were in the way.
>
> Cheers, T i m
>

It depends which ones you buy, but they're only slightly tighter than a
nyloc.