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From: boltar2003 on 1 Oct 2009 04:41 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:15:23 +0100 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >www.hpemotorsport.co.uk - you'll never own anything that'll accelerate >as fast as something powered by the Pinto engines they build. Probably not, but then I wouldn't want to own a stripped down car with an engine that probably needs a rebuild every few thousand miles. However I did own a yank tank that did 60 in 5 secs without even trying out the box using a normally aspirated low revving V8 so I don't really understand why you'd waste time trying to soup up a tinky little engine when you could start with something that has far more power and far more potential. Touring cars get 300bhp out of 2.0 4 cyls which last a season maybe but so what? You can do into a dealership and buy a car off the shelf with that power and it'll probably do 200K miles before it needs a rebuild. B2003
From: Adrian on 1 Oct 2009 06:54 boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>The one thing that old Yank V8's were noted for was their amazing >>ability to get less power from a 5.7L V8 than we were doing from a 2L >>Vauxhall Cavalier. > I've never seen a stock cavalier with 300bhp from a 4 pot. Some versions of the 350 Chevy v8 put out as little as 165bhp in the mid '70s - and that was brochure horsepower. God knows how gutless they actually were. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_small-block_engine#350
From: boltar2003 on 1 Oct 2009 06:58 On 1 Oct 2009 10:54:31 GMT Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >saying: > >>>The one thing that old Yank V8's were noted for was their amazing >>>ability to get less power from a 5.7L V8 than we were doing from a 2L >>>Vauxhall Cavalier. > >> I've never seen a stock cavalier with 300bhp from a 4 pot. > >Some versions of the 350 Chevy v8 put out as little as 165bhp in the mid >'70s - and that was brochure horsepower. God knows how gutless they >actually were. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_small-block_engine#350 Well this was a late 90s model. And given that 2.0s over here in the 70s struggle to make 80hp its a case of glass houses. Also don't forget that the octane rating of yank petrol is so low its a joke. B2003
From: Adrian on 1 Oct 2009 07:02 boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>The one thing that old Yank V8's were noted for was their amazing >>>>ability to get less power from a 5.7L V8 than we were doing from a 2L >>>>Vauxhall Cavalier. >>> I've never seen a stock cavalier with 300bhp from a 4 pot. >>Some versions of the 350 Chevy v8 put out as little as 165bhp in the mid >>'70s - and that was brochure horsepower. God knows how gutless they >>actually were. >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_small-block_engine#350 > And given that 2.0s over here in the 70s struggle to make 80hp its a > case of glass houses. No, not really. 115bhp from the 307/5.0? Mmm-hmm. That was really nothing very special from 2.0 in the '70s. > Also don't forget that the octane rating of yank petrol is measured differently
From: Steve Firth on 1 Oct 2009 08:01
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > boltar2003(a)yahoo.co.uk gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > > >>The one thing that old Yank V8's were noted for was their amazing > >>ability to get less power from a 5.7L V8 than we were doing from a 2L > >>Vauxhall Cavalier. > > > I've never seen a stock cavalier with 300bhp from a 4 pot. > > Some versions of the 350 Chevy v8 put out as little as 165bhp in the mid > '70s - and that was brochure horsepower. God knows how gutless they > actually were. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_small-block_engine#350 The 4.0V6 in the Mustang puts out 210 bhp, the same that Ford Europe manage from a 2.0 ST. |