From: OzOne on
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:39:31 +1000, D Walford
<dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote:

>On 31/07/2010 7:57 PM, Feral wrote:
>
>> It *never* handled like "a knob of butter on a hot frying pan" Bighead,
>> it just handles better *now*. And rides better.
>
>Please detail the changes you made that made such a big improvement.

Please underline the section where "big" was used!

>What were the OE tyres and what did you replace them with?
>Did you do anything like changing springs and shockers or just an alignment?
>Good tyres can make a huge difference but whilst an alignment can help
>its unlikely to its unlikely to make that much difference unless the OE
>setting where very wrong.
>
>
>Daryl

Oh and taking out the factory positive camber, lack of caster and toe
in will make any car handle "better"




OzOne of the three twins

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From: Clocky on
Noddy wrote:
> <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message
> news:17u156pkpr0drf1s347s7194vbmtjdpj4i(a)4ax.com...
>
>> Yes indeed...however you seemed to not be capable of comprehension.
>
> Translation: "Noddy doesn't understand my particular version of
> goobledegook"
>
>> I'll repeat myself,,and add a few more.
>
> Feel free, but *please* be specific.
>
>> Try chassis dynamics...longer suspension travel means better
>> compliance, longer wheelbase and track mean better ride.
>> Larger vehicle means better sound insulation added to the mechanicals
>> being further from and better insulated from the cabin.
>> Larger wheel sizes mean better ride
>> Larger engine does the work easier.
>
> Ooh, nice.
>
>> The list is rather large...however I'd suggest you feel free to
>> continue long trips on country roads in a small car.....It might
>> rattle a little sense into you.
>
> As I mentioned previously, a number of times now, and as you've
> conveniently ignored me every time I have, perhaps you can explain
> *exactly* how *any* of that is particular to a larger car or that it
> cannot be applied equally as effectively to a smaller one? You see
> Ozliar, your overly simplistic generalisations make it sound like you
> saying that a poverty pack Falcon wagon is a more comfortable car and
> a better highway cruiser than a Lexus IS250 or a 3 Series BMW when
> even *you* aren't *that* dumb to think that's the case.
>
> As I said in another post, the *size* of the car is irrelevant. How
> well it's finished and balanced certainly is.


Ah, so a Getz is in the same league as a Lexus IS250 or BMW 3 series hence
it's better then an EF Fairmont... now I get you lol.








From: Feral on
OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:39:31 +1000, D Walford
> <dwalford(a)internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>> On 31/07/2010 7:57 PM, Feral wrote:
>>
>>> It *never* handled like "a knob of butter on a hot frying pan" Bighead,
>>> it just handles better *now*. And rides better.
>>
>> Please detail the changes you made that made such a big improvement.
>
> Please underline the section where "big" was used!
>
>> What were the OE tyres and what did you replace them with?
>> Did you do anything like changing springs and shockers or just an alignment?
>> Good tyres can make a huge difference but whilst an alignment can help
>> its unlikely to its unlikely to make that much difference unless the OE
>> setting where very wrong.
>>
>>
>> Daryl
>
> Oh and taking out the factory positive camber, lack of caster and toe
> in will make any car handle "better"

Spot on and the wider GIII's and experimenting with front/rear
pressures completes the cheap, cost effective package. Neutral
"toe" works remarkably well on the FWD, the front doesn't
wander when going straight ahead and the steering is light
until pressed hard into a corner, when it goes into oversteer
and you feel like you're drifting without skidding. Eerie
feeling, but safe. It's like a car out of body alignment,
crabbing. Get the drift?

BTW Daz, the crappy, skinny fitted Dunlops lasted 35k km.
That's with rotation, but it didn't stop the outside wear and
feathering. Couldn't wait to get rid of them.

Makes one wonder why they factory set them like they do. I've
got Supercats of the same size on now, but they aren't as good
as the GIII's (no longer available for the Avalon).


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From: Noddy on

"Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
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> Ah, so a Getz is in the same league as a Lexus IS250 or BMW 3 series hence
> it's better then an EF Fairmont... now I get you lol.

Ah, no. I really don't think you do.....

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From: Feral on
Noddy wrote:
> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message
> news:4c540540$0$28638$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>
>> Ah, so a Getz is in the same league as a Lexus IS250 or BMW 3 series hence
>> it's better then an EF Fairmont... now I get you lol.
>
> Ah, no. I really don't think you do.....

I wonder why?

LOL

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