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From: D Walford on 27 Jul 2010 04:59 On 27/07/2010 4:22 PM, Scotty wrote: > "Milton"<millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4c4d79b7$0$28647$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > : > : "Atheist Chaplain"<abused(a)cia.gov> wrote in message > : news:4c4d53dc$2(a)news.x-privat.org... > :> > :> "PHATRS"<stoptryingtosp(a)m.me> wrote in message > :> news:i2j0o0$gls$1(a)news.albasani.net... > :>> On 26/07/10 13:47, Trevor Wilson wrote: > :>>> "PHATRS"<stoptryingtosp(a)m.me> wrote in message > :>>> news:i2iv7j$f1h$1(a)news.albasani.net... > :>>>> On 26/07/10 13:15, Trevor Wilson wrote: > :>>>>> "Noddy"<Mission.Control(a)NASA.com> wrote in message > :>>>>> news:4c4cf6fc$0$12395$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... > :>>>>>> > :>>>>>> "Trevor Wilson"<trevor(a)rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message > :>>>>>> news:8b3tvvFn0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... > :>>>>>> > :>>>>>>> Let's see the Pollys place themselves into Diesels or Prius' BEFORE > :>>>>>>> I > :>>>>>>> am > :>>>>>>> forced to trade up(?) to a new car. > :>>>>>>> > :>>>>>>> [Shakes head] > :>>>>>> > :>>>>>> As I understand it, Gillard's version of the "cash for clunkers" > :>>>>>> scheme > :>>>>>> is > :>>>>>> an incentive, not compulsory, so I don't think anyone will be forcing > :>>>>>> you > :>>>>>> to do anything. > :>>>>> > :>>>>> **I agree. Part of point is that it is highly likely that my 'clunker' > :>>>>> manages better fuel consumption than the PM's Com-Car. If pollies want > :>>>>> us > :>>>>> to > :>>>>> invest in better fuel economy, then they should be driving around in > :>>>>> Prius' > :>>>>> (or is that Priii?) or a Diesel first. Those boats that most pollies > :>>>>> tool > :>>>>> around in are horrible consumers of fuel. > :>>>>> > :>>>>> > :>>>> > :>>>> 'cept priiii aren't big enough for the fat cats. > :>>> > :>>> **Anyone too big to fit into a Prius won't be alive much longer. They > :>>> should > :>>> be walking anyway. > :>>> > :>>> > :>> > :>> My point was that Priiii are not big limo-like cars. Not big enough for > :>> the egos of pollies. > :> > :> So what about a Lexus Hybrid SUV ?? > : Or even a Camry Hybrid? > : > : Regards > : > : Milton > : > : > > or a FRICKEN BICYCLE!!!! Get those fat arsed Pollies fit. Or if they DO have to travel, enforce that > they HAVE to take Public transport. Im sure that all trains, planes and buses will all be on time > within 5 years of that happening. > > > Neither Gillard or Abbott fit the description of "fat arsed", from what I've seen Abbott seems to be a fitness nut, I've not seen Gillard in person but she doesn't look fat on TV. Daryl
From: D Walford on 27 Jul 2010 05:29 On 27/07/2010 6:53 AM, Marts wrote: > PHATRS wrote... > >> My point was that Priiii are not big limo-like cars. Not big enough for >> the egos of pollies. > > A survey of the cars "leased" by Victorian MPs revealed that most of them were > driving cars like Ford XR6s, Territories, SV6s and the like. One Greens member > had a Pruis. > > And given that most of them live in or around Melbourne, there is absolutely no > need for such gas guzzlers. Are you an American? What's with this "gas guzzling" bullshit. Gas means LPG which is economical and cheap. None of them take public transport on a regular > basis. And most, if given half a chance, would jump in a helo to get to and from > work... > > Members who live in places like Mildura or East Gippsland certainly can justify > these sorts of cars, as they have long distances to travel. > > But not those who live in Melbourne, particularly inner Melbourne. Why, they are no different from the majority of the population who have families. Its as silly as saying that the family down the road shouldn't be allowed to drive a big Commodore or Falcon. The reason they have Falcons/Terrys and Commodores is they are locally made and pollies should be supporting the local car industry. They could get a hybrid Camry but despite the hype they aren't all that economical. Daryl
From: Milton on 27 Jul 2010 05:37 "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message news:4c4e2bc1$0$12398$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... > > "Marts" <marts(a)ymail.com> wrote in message > news:fn1r46t7anqmeq195isdi3a8gkevlk9g7j(a)astraweb.com... > >> Members who live in places like Mildura or East Gippsland certainly can >> justify >> these sorts of cars, as they have long distances to travel. >> >> But not those who live in Melbourne, particularly inner Melbourne. > > Excuse my ignorance, but what difference does distance make to the kind of > car one needs? > > I'm not defending the pollies, and to be honest I hate the lot of them, > but I would think their car "needs" would be no different to those of > anyone else's. No one "needs" an XR6, but many might *want* one, and I > can't see what difference it makes if it's Joe Public buying one with his > own coin or some Pollie taking one from a list of availables as a public > funded vehicle. > You seem to have missed the point again Nods. Please read more concisely in future and it might save me correcting you all the time. ; ) The point Marts was making was that driving around the City is totally different than the highway, thus the Prius would do the job, but on the highway at highway speeds and other traffic a larger car would be and is much better. Then again though, you Melbournians are much different to the rest of the country and mixing a NZ'der in the mix and it's understandable why you get so confused. : ) Regards Milton
From: hippo on 27 Jul 2010 08:32 PhilD wrote: > > > "Noddy" <Mission.Control(a)NASA.com> wrote in message > news:4c4e60d5$0$12392$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... > > > > "PhilD" <replytonewsgrouponly(a)aussient.com.au> wrote in message > > news:IQr3o.1835$Yv.788(a)viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com... > > > >> Each has advantages and disadvantages, but can't say that I ever felt > >> unsafe as a direct result of being in a small car on a long trip. > > > > Me either. > > > Although it was a long time ago, we did a trip from here out via Mt > Isa/Townsville/Brisbane/Sydney/Canberra/Cooma/Thredbo/Alpine way in to > Vic/Melbourne/Gt Ocean Rd/Grampians/Adealaide/Alice Darwin. There was just > us and a 3 year old but we had a choice, take the Range Rover or the KA > Laser. If we had taken the RR I would have to driven the whole way as the > seating/driving position wasn't something my wife could handle as she's > rather small. Apart from a couple of steep decents that the Lasers brakes > were slightly inadequate for there was nothing in the trip that was unduly > stressfull on either the car or us and there were no regrets that we missed > out on anything by not having a 4x4 and more room. The Adelaide to Darwin > stretch was done in just 2 days with a fair amount of night driving, at > reduced speed, but we never had any animal incidents and was quite boring > really. > > When you consider the lack of luxury that a KA Laser has I would expect that > any fairly new small vehicle would be a dream on a long trip. We recently > bought my wife a new Honda Jazz and except for the ride quality that I find > a little strange and can't quite pin down, it would do any similar trip with > ease. > > > I drove my mum's little Getz from Melbourne to Sydney and back to look at > > a car, and I found it quite comfortable and relaxed. For mine it's more > > about how comfortable I am in the car and how well it can do it's job > > rather than what it is or how big it's engine may be. > > > >> A good performance car will allow shorter overtaking times, particularly > >> with trucks and tourists with caravans, and even more so with road > >> trains. Added benefits of likely better brakes and suspension don't go > >> astray. It opens up a whole new range of places to overtake safely. > > > > Possibly, but then if we're talking about the difference between an XR6 > > and a regular garden variety Falcon then the mag wheels and tacho aren't > > going to have a shitload of an impact :) > > > Don't the badges count for anything? > > > My point was that it becomes a debate of "needs" versus "wants". 99% of > > the time most people only need a car with one seat, in which case they > > could get by with a moped. However, very few people would *want* to do > > that. > > > My "wants" are many but are generally over-ridden by real "needs" or SHMBO, > whichever is most vocal. My choice of the BF MkII RTV ute with tipper tray > was the subject of gentle ribbing until the Jazz arrived and cost more. No > more is said about my "toy". She's already offered to let me drive the Jazz > to Adelaide in a couple of months, alone, but I'd never hear the end of it > if I were to hit a roo etc. > > PhilD > > > > AFAIK, it shares the Civic's suspension, so being a bit lighter, it bounces more than it probably should. Travelling everywhere with 2 or 3 passengers could cure that I suppose! -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: OzOne on 27 Jul 2010 08:40
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:36:12 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote: >Excuse my ignorance, but what difference does distance make to the kind of >car one needs? Yep...Ignorant you are. Lets see now...If you drive from Sydney to Melbourne regularly, would you consider that you 'need' a Commodore sized car or a Kia Picanto? OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |