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From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 03:16 "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:n7ffe2dgg6089ll9ee60k66r3tljgjm6eg(a)4ax.com [snip] > I think I should apologise for my remark earlier. > > to say you come across like a gibbering idiot on this > subject is extremely insulting to gibbering idiots. Ah. You can't think of anything that will persuade me so you resort to insults. Fine, I am *still* not a European. Ivor
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 03:17 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:vqefe2hc0mm661kq3uscc1sb5h4m6q834v(a)4ax.com > > [snip] > >> Your *country* is England, but your *nationality* is >> British. >> >> Nationality is based on your *nation* not your *country* >> (although with many of the nations in the world, they are >> the same thing). > > They are the same thing. Wrong. > >> But nobody has ever suggested that European is your >> nationality. It isn't, and it can't be, unless and until >> a nation of Europe comes into existence. > > We agree about one thing anyway. > >> But the fact that "European" is not your nationality does >> NOT mean you are not European. > > Yes it does. No it doesn't, unless your perception of the world stops at your front door.
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 03:18 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:b4-dnS-No5wylXXZRVnyvw(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:Zo2dnazyZaXfD3rZRVnyjQ(a)bt.com > > > Ivor Jones wrote: > > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:GaWdnRiFM52yGHrZRVny2g(a)bt.com > > > > > Ivor Jones wrote: > > > > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in > > > > > > message > > > > > > news:J_CdnS2fedU943rZnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d(a)bt.com [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you object to being defined as a human > > > > > > > male? > > > > > > > > > > > > I object to others deciding what I am. > > > > > > > > > > Others decided you are a human male. > > > > > > > > Oh yes, who..? I was unaware it was possible to > > > > choose the gender of a child in the 50's. > > > > > > But it's what other people define you as. > > > > Hmm. I didn't think my mother and father looked at me > > and said "we've had a European" > > No, they probably said, "We've had a baby boy". True or > False? Exactly. But I am still not a European. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 03:18 "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message news:r6SFg.14801$rP1.13087(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message > news:4kpds1Fc8aufU1(a)individual.net... > > On the page with my photo on it says British Citizen. > > That's amazing! Coz I'd've put big money on it saying, > "Cockhead" Ah, the old foul language argument. See my other post on why that immediately makes you wrong. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 03:20
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:KcGdnV8x09ebmnXZRVnyuw(a)bt.com [snip] > > > OK. Right.... <takes deep breath> > > > > > > Could you *please* explain to everyone how someone > > > with a British passport, resident in the UK, which is > > > part of the EU cannot be considered a European? > > > > Because a continent is not a country. I am defined by > > my country of birth not my continent of residence. If I > > move to Australia, I will still be English. > > You will also still be European. Wrong. > If you remain there any > length of time you will become Australian. Residency has nothing to do with it. |