From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
> > news:VmWFg.14944$rP1.1997(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au
> >
> > [rest of long post snipped]
> >
> > > But, as far as where you live, Ivor, that's
> > > Europe, mate,
> >
> > (a) no it isn't, it's England
> >
> > (b) you're not my mate. No mate of mine would insult me
> > over and over and over again despite my asking them not
> > to.
>
> It would appear that Mr Jones' difficulty with language
> is not confined to his ethnic origins.

I have no difficulty with language at all. Merely the fact that a certain
group of people have taken it upon themselves to insult me over and over
again and then wonder why I defend myself.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig(a)oil.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:41:33 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > To you maybe, not to me and it is *my* definition that
> > applies to me, not yours.
>
> Alas, no. Your opinion doesn't come into it.

There you go. My opinion is paramount when it comes to defending myself
against wrongful insults.

Ivor


From: PC Paul on
Brimstone wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> "David Taylor" <davidt-news(a)yadt.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:slrneeggs2.1l0t.davidt-news(a)outcold.yadt.co.uk
>>> On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>>> "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:5jefe2tsqltf4tmb71n6ag44gjr8v5cbht(a)4ax.com
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but the words you use are defined either by a
>>>>> dictionary, or by common usage where that has not yet
>>>>> been incorporated.
>>>>>
>>>>> On either count, you are using the word incorrectly.
>>>>
>>>> Which particular word..? I don't care except for one
>>>> specific word, European. That word does not and never
>>>> will apply to me.
>>>
>>> Perhaps what you beleieve "European" to mean doesn't
>>> apply to you.
>>
>> No meaning of the word applies to me. You continually saying it does
>> will not make it so. Only I can make it so and I don't.
>
> Surely you mean you constant;y denying a basic fact of life won't
> alter it? You can't make anything in this context, you are what you
> are and that's European/British/English.
>
>
>>> Unfortunately, common usage of the word doesn't really
>>> give you the option of deciding whether it applies to you
>>> or not
>>
>> Wrong.
>
> In which case you don't understand English.
>
>>> It merely does or does not. And to you, it does
>>> apply.
>>
>> Wrong
>
> You don't really understand what this is about do you?

I think he understands perfectly and just doesn't wish to be considered a
European, even though he is definitely a good solid 100% dyed-in-the-wool
European.

He stands on European soil, eats European food, breathes European air and
craps down a European bog.

He's probably a creationist as well, in which case this will be a *very*
long thread. And at the end of it he'll still say he isn't a European. And
he'll still be wrong.




From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Rob Morley" <nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1f5257782ef491ee98a59f(a)news.individual.net
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > It's not my argument it's yours, and you're doing a
> > > singularly poor job of making it. Maybe if you told
> > > us the specific mental impairment from which you
> > > suffer then others would find it easier to see things
> > > from your point of view.
> >
> > I don't care whether you see things from my point of
> > view or not. I am merely stating the fact that I am not
> > a European. That and only that is what you and others
> > can't (or won't) grasp.
>
> You've told us that you were born of a Welsh father,
> assuming that your mother is also British, for us to
> accept that you are not European would be to believe that
> black is white.

Analogies again. Irrelevant. Please, once and for all, stop insulting me.
I have done nothing to you to deserve it.

Ivor


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Richard Brookman"
> <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in
> message news:4kqv2oFd7h8iU1(a)individual.net
>
> [snip]
>
>> OK, Ivor - in one sentence, how would you define the word
>> "European"? That it is a word, and that it has a
>> meaning, there is no doubt. Your understanding of what
>> it means might help to clarify things somewhat.
>
> It means relating to the continent known as Europe.

Agreed.

> I do not relate
> to the continent known as Europe, therefore I cannot be a European.

Assuming that your mother, as well as your father, is British/English or
Welsh or Scots or Irish make you European since that's where your forebears
came from.