From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tKmdndO6lrveiXXZnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d(a)bt.com
>
> [snip]
>
>> Yes you are, but it has nothing to do with nationality.
>
> I am not and it has everything to do with nationality.

Yes you are and no it doesn't. Your forebears originated in Europe,
therefore you are of European descent therefore you are European..


From: Ivor Jones on


"PC Paul" <urd(a)munge.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Brimstone wrote:
> > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > "David Taylor" <davidt-news(a)yadt.co.uk> wrote in
> > > message
> > > news:slrneeggs2.1l0t.davidt-news(a)outcold.yadt.co.uk
> > > > On 2006-08-20, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:5jefe2tsqltf4tmb71n6ag44gjr8v5cbht(a)4ax.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, but the words you use are defined either by
> > > > > > a dictionary, or by common usage where that has
> > > > > > not yet been incorporated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On either count, you are using the word
> > > > > > incorrectly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which particular word..? I don't care except for
> > > > > one specific word, European. That word does not
> > > > > and never will apply to me.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps what you beleieve "European" to mean doesn't
> > > > apply to you.
> > >
> > > No meaning of the word applies to me. You continually
> > > saying it does will not make it so. Only I can make
> > > it so and I don't.
> >
> > Surely you mean you constant;y denying a basic fact of
> > life won't alter it? You can't make anything in this
> > context, you are what you are and that's
> > European/British/English.
> > > > Unfortunately, common usage of the word doesn't
> > > > really give you the option of deciding whether it
> > > > applies to you or not
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> >
> > In which case you don't understand English.
> >
> > > > It merely does or does not. And to you, it does
> > > > apply.
> > >
> > > Wrong
> >
> > You don't really understand what this is about do you?
>
> I think he understands perfectly and just doesn't wish to
> be considered a European, even though he is definitely a
> good solid 100% dyed-in-the-wool European.
>
> He stands on European soil,

Wrong.
>eats European food,

> breathes
> European air

Wrong.

> and craps down a European bog.

Wrong.

> He's probably a creationist as well, in which case this
> will be a *very* long thread.

It will be as long as it takes for you to stop insulting me.

> And at the end of it he'll
> still say he isn't a European. And he'll still be wrong.

No I won't, but just tell me one thing. What on earth have I done to you
that you have taken it upon yourself to heap insult after insult on me..?

Ivor


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98256A916AEBEadrianachapmanfreeis(a)204.153.244.170
>> Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily,
>> sounding much like they were saying :
>>
>>>> Others decided you are a human male.
>>
>>> Oh yes, who..?
>>
>> Mother Nature, or - if you're of that persuasion - God.
>>
>>> I was unaware it was possible to choose the gender of a
>>> child in the 50's.
>>
>> Ah, so you WERE old enough to vote in the '75 EU
>> membership referendum...? And there was you, claiming
>> that you didn't get asked for your opinion...
>
> And since when has any government taken the slightest notice of the
> electorate when it didn't suit them..?

They did on that occasion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/6/newsid_2499000/2499297.stm


From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Richard Brookman"
> > <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in
> > message news:4kqv2oFd7h8iU1(a)individual.net
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > OK, Ivor - in one sentence, how would you define the
> > > word "European"? That it is a word, and that it has a
> > > meaning, there is no doubt. Your understanding of
> > > what it means might help to clarify things somewhat.
> >
> > It means relating to the continent known as Europe.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > I do not relate
> > to the continent known as Europe, therefore I cannot be
> > a European.
>
> Assuming that your mother, as well as your father, is
> British/English or Welsh or Scots or Irish make you
> European since that's where your forebears came from.

Wrong. Assume what you like, you are still wrong. Please stop insulting
me.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:tKmdndO6lrveiXXZnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d(a)bt.com
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Yes you are, but it has nothing to do with
> > > nationality.
> >
> > I am not and it has everything to do with nationality.
>
> Yes you are and no it doesn't. Your forebears originated
> in Europe, therefore you are of European descent
> therefore you are European..

No. Please stop insulting me, I have done nothing to you to deserve it.

Ivor