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From: Richard Brookman on 20 Aug 2006 12:05 Ivor Jones wrote: || "Richard Brookman" || <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in || message news:4kqv2oFd7h8iU1(a)individual.net || || [snip] || ||| OK, Ivor - in one sentence, how would you define the word ||| "European"? That it is a word, and that it has a ||| meaning, there is no doubt. Your understanding of what ||| it means might help to clarify things somewhat. || || It means relating to the continent known as Europe. Correct. || I do not relate to the continent known as Europe You live there. Whether you "relate" to it in a congnitive/political/historical/ethnic sense is another matter, and is irrelevant. || therefore I cannot be a European. England is in Europe, as India is in Asia. You live in England, therefore you live in Europe, therefore you are European, in the same way that an Indian is also an Asian. Otherwise, every other speaker of English in the world would be wrong and you would be right. I am beginning to suspect that you believe this. Note: no abuse or foul language, just logic. -- Rich ============================== Take out the obvious to email me.
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 12:06 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig(a)oil.com> wrote in message > news:dk1he2p36mjgapdgfkc23hgdl0ebloequ5(a)4ax.com >> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:41:33 +0100, "Ivor Jones" >> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >> >>> To you maybe, not to me and it is *my* definition that >>> applies to me, not yours. >> >> Alas, no. Your opinion doesn't come into it. > > There you go. My opinion is paramount when it comes to defending > myself against wrongful insults. Calling someone a European (when they are) is not an insult. You are a European.
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 12:07 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:n-mdnbYJSfHDGXXZRVnyiQ(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >>> "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message >>> news:VmWFg.14944$rP1.1997(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au >>> >>> [rest of long post snipped] >>> >>>> But, as far as where you live, Ivor, that's >>>> Europe, mate, >>> >>> (a) no it isn't, it's England >>> >>> (b) you're not my mate. No mate of mine would insult me >>> over and over and over again despite my asking them not >>> to. >> >> It would appear that Mr Jones' difficulty with language >> is not confined to his ethnic origins. > > I have no difficulty with language at all. Merely the fact that a > certain group of people have taken it upon themselves to insult me > over and over again and then wonder why I defend myself. How have these people insulted you?
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 12:07 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:aK2dnfhhQPsWFXXZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig(a)oil.com> wrote in > > message news:dk1he2p36mjgapdgfkc23hgdl0ebloequ5(a)4ax.com > > > On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:41:33 +0100, "Ivor Jones" > > > <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > To you maybe, not to me and it is *my* definition > > > > that applies to me, not yours. > > > > > > Alas, no. Your opinion doesn't come into it. > > > > There you go. My opinion is paramount when it comes to > > defending myself against wrongful insults. > > Calling someone a European (when they are) is not an > insult. It is an insult to me. Stop it. > You are a European. I am not. Ivor
From: Ian Dalziel on 20 Aug 2006 12:09
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:52:21 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >"Richard Brookman" ><THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in >message news:4kqv2oFd7h8iU1(a)individual.net > >[snip] > >> OK, Ivor - in one sentence, how would you define the word >> "European"? That it is a word, and that it has a >> meaning, there is no doubt. Your understanding of what >> it means might help to clarify things somewhat. > >It means relating to the continent known as Europe. I do not relate to the >continent known as Europe, therefore I cannot be a European. > You'd better start treading water, then. -- Ian D |