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From: Adrian on 20 Aug 2006 12:40 Rob Morley (nospam(a)ntlworld.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : >> > though he may legitimately claim to be of Caucasian stock. >> Is there a country called Caucasia? I don't _think_ so... > The Caucasus is a region between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. Ah, but is there a COUNTRY called Caucasia? If not, then by Ivor's logic, there's no such thing as a Caucasian.
From: mattic on 20 Aug 2006 12:47 "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message news:4krg13Fdf1smU1(a)individual.net... > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:O9qdnW8f08jJFHXZRVny1Q(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:sYidnQwylMe_G3XZRVnyhw(a)bt.com >> > >> > [snip] >> > >> > > You don't really understand what this is about do you? >> > >> > Yes, it is about you insulting me and me defending >> > myself. Stop and I will. Carry on and so will I. >> >> What insult is being levelled at you? > > You know perfectly well. You are calling me a European and I have asked > you not to. It doesn't matter if you don't understand why I consider it an > insult, merely that you know I do. Stop denying that you are a European, it is insulting to me. It doesn't matter if you don't understand why I consider it an insult, merely that you know I do.
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 12:42 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:xbudndcMzIIKE3XZRVnyrQ(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:neKdnfSLJad-FnXZRVnyrw(a)bt.com >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>>>> What insult is being levelled at you? >>>>> >>>>> You know perfectly well. You are calling me a >>>>> European and I have asked you not to. It doesn't >>>>> matter if you don't understand why I consider it an >>>>> insult, merely that you know I do. >>>> >>>> So tell us why you consider it an insult. >>> >>> Why does someone from Pakistan consider being called a >>> "Paki" an insult..? >> >> They don't, mmany use it to describe themsleves and/or >> their businesses. > > Hmm. I work with several and none of them consider it acceptable. When coupled with other words intended to be insulting then I would agree. Howevr, when simply used as an abbreviation of Pakistani then how can it be an insult? http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=paki&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB > >>> I don't know, but they do and I would never dream of >>> insulting someone from that country in such a way. >> >> Not using a perfectly normal term is your choice. Do you >> feel insulted when someone calls you a "Brit"? > > That's not the question under discussion. Maybe, but an answer would help to clarify your outlook. > The current question is why > are you so unspeakably rude as to continually go against someone's > express wishes when it is of no consequence to you but is everything > to the other person..? Wrong, the current question is why you deny being a European. Saying that it's your choice is not a sensible response.
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 12:42 "Richard Brookman" <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message news:4krhg2Fdc7inU1(a)individual.net > Brimstone wrote: > > > > Your ethnic origin is at the crux of this > > > conversation and is something that everyone can see > > > when meeting you face to face. > > Please don't give him another category to start denying > things. European is not a race nor an ethnic group, it > describes a geographical area. His ethnic origin > (assuming he is white Essex boy with Welsh ancestry, > although I stand to be corrected on that) is Caucasian. > He's still a European, geographically speaking. Wrong. Ivor
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 12:43
Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:FrOdnXiKbbjrEnXZnZ2dnUVZ8tadnZ2d(a)bt.com > > [snip] > >> Try telling us why you consider it so and we might begin >> to understand. > > You don't have to understand, but my previous post regarding > Pakistanis comes as close as I'm going to tell you. So your mother is a Pakistani or of similar Asian descent? |