From: Adrian on
Rob Morley (nospam(a)ntlworld.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

>> > though he may legitimately claim to be of Caucasian stock.

>> Is there a country called Caucasia? I don't _think_ so...

> The Caucasus is a region between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.

Ah, but is there a COUNTRY called Caucasia? If not, then by Ivor's logic,
there's no such thing as a Caucasian.
From: mattic on

"Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O9qdnW8f08jJFHXZRVny1Q(a)bt.com
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:sYidnQwylMe_G3XZRVnyhw(a)bt.com
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> >
>> > > You don't really understand what this is about do you?
>> >
>> > Yes, it is about you insulting me and me defending
>> > myself. Stop and I will. Carry on and so will I.
>>
>> What insult is being levelled at you?
>
> You know perfectly well. You are calling me a European and I have asked
> you not to. It doesn't matter if you don't understand why I consider it an
> insult, merely that you know I do.

Stop denying that you are a European, it is insulting to me. It doesn't
matter if you don't understand why I consider it an insult, merely that you
know I do.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xbudndcMzIIKE3XZRVnyrQ(a)bt.com
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:neKdnfSLJad-FnXZRVnyrw(a)bt.com
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>>> What insult is being levelled at you?
>>>>>
>>>>> You know perfectly well. You are calling me a
>>>>> European and I have asked you not to. It doesn't
>>>>> matter if you don't understand why I consider it an
>>>>> insult, merely that you know I do.
>>>>
>>>> So tell us why you consider it an insult.
>>>
>>> Why does someone from Pakistan consider being called a
>>> "Paki" an insult..?
>>
>> They don't, mmany use it to describe themsleves and/or
>> their businesses.
>
> Hmm. I work with several and none of them consider it acceptable.

When coupled with other words intended to be insulting then I would agree.
Howevr, when simply used as an abbreviation of Pakistani then how can it be
an insult?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=paki&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB

>
>>> I don't know, but they do and I would never dream of
>>> insulting someone from that country in such a way.
>>
>> Not using a perfectly normal term is your choice. Do you
>> feel insulted when someone calls you a "Brit"?
>
> That's not the question under discussion.

Maybe, but an answer would help to clarify your outlook.

> The current question is why
> are you so unspeakably rude as to continually go against someone's
> express wishes when it is of no consequence to you but is everything
> to the other person..?

Wrong, the current question is why you deny being a European. Saying that
it's your choice is not a sensible response.


From: Ivor Jones on


"Richard Brookman"
<THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in
message news:4krhg2Fdc7inU1(a)individual.net
> Brimstone wrote:
>
> > > Your ethnic origin is at the crux of this
> > > conversation and is something that everyone can see
> > > when meeting you face to face.
>
> Please don't give him another category to start denying
> things. European is not a race nor an ethnic group, it
> describes a geographical area. His ethnic origin
> (assuming he is white Essex boy with Welsh ancestry,
> although I stand to be corrected on that) is Caucasian.
> He's still a European, geographically speaking.

Wrong.

Ivor


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FrOdnXiKbbjrEnXZnZ2dnUVZ8tadnZ2d(a)bt.com
>
> [snip]
>
>> Try telling us why you consider it so and we might begin
>> to understand.
>
> You don't have to understand, but my previous post regarding
> Pakistanis comes as close as I'm going to tell you.

So your mother is a Pakistani or of similar Asian descent?