From: Ivor Jones on
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:

[snip]

> > > > Why does someone from Pakistan consider being
> > > > called a "Paki" an insult..?
> > >
> > > They don't, mmany use it to describe themsleves and/or
> > > their businesses.
> >
> > Hmm. I work with several and none of them consider it
> > acceptable.
>
> When coupled with other words intended to be insulting
> then I would agree. Howevr, when simply used as an
> abbreviation of Pakistani then how can it be an insult?

I don't know, you'd have to ask the individuals concerned. However I
respect their wishes even if I don't understand them. Why can't you do the
same..?

Ivor


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> [snip]
>
>> Saying that you are not European is both an untruth and a
>> denial of the truth.
>
> It is not.
>
>> Do you habitually tell lies?
>
> No.
>
> Do you habitually insult people and go against their direct wishes..?

I haven't yet, but there's always the possibility.


From: Ivor Jones on
"mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

> Stop denying that you are a European, it is insulting to
> me. It doesn't matter if you don't understand why I
> consider it an insult, merely that you know I do.

Tough. You insulted me first. You apologise and I will.

Ivor


From: Richard Brookman on
Ivor Jones wrote:

|| "Richard Brookman"
|| <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in
|| message news:4krfi0Fd7mr0U1(a)individual.net
||| Ivor Jones wrote:
||
|| [snip]
||
||||| I do not relate to the continent known as Europe
|||
||| You live there. Whether you "relate" to it in a
||| congnitive/political/historical/ethnic sense is another
||| matter, and is irrelevant.
||
|| I do not. It is very relevant. Please stop insulting me.
||
|| Ivor

I have never insulted you. You are saying you live in England, but not in
Europe? Is that it?

--
Rich
==============================

Take out the obvious to email me.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rJqdncf3saS5EnXZRVnyig(a)bt.com
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4KudnezT37GKEXXZnZ2dnUVZ8sidnZ2d(a)bt.com
>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49WdnQksSL0VFHXZRVny1Q(a)bt.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>>> What insult is being levelled at you?
>>>>>
>>>>> You know perfectly well. Answer the question.
>>>>
>>>> If we knew why you consider being a European an
>>>> insult we might be able to understand.
>>>
>>> You don't have to understand.

How do you know what my intellectual needs are?

>> A refusal to understand other people is why there is
>> conflict in the world.
>
> Precisely. You are refusing to understand that it is irrelevant why I
> don't wish to be called a European. The fact that I don't should be
> enough.

Try providing some supporting information.


>>> Besides, if you don't by now you never
>>> will.
>>
>> Since you've not given a reason how can anyone know? We
>> mat have suspicions however.
>>
>>> A decent human being would respect my wishes regardless,
>>> considering it would have no adverse reaction to them.
>>
>> As said before, the individual's wishes have no bearing
>> on the matter.
>
> They do to anyone with a speck of humanity.

Since there is an awful lot that happens to us outwith our wishes, humanity
has nothing to do with it.