From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ReOdnVsq8o--FHXZRVnyjw(a)bt.com
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Your ethnic origin is at the crux of this conversation
> > > and is something that everyone can see when meeting
> > > you face to face.
> >
> > Right. So if you meet someone from Australia or the US
> > face to face and they don't say anything to give you a
> > clue from their accent, or do anything else that might
> > give them away, you can still tell where they're from,
> > can you..?
>
> I can identify their ethnic origin.

How..? Let's say that two white males are walking along the street in
front of you. Brown hair, blue or brown eyes, say 6ft tall. Both dressed
in the usual jeans/t-shirt or whatever. Neither speak or do anything at
all. How can you tell their origin..?

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:H-2dnbqyyYFXDnXZRVny1Q(a)bt.com
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > In which case, until you give a sound reason why we
> > > should not consider and describe you as a European
> > > that's what you'll be.
> >
> > Because I have asked you not to call me one. However as
> > you have no respect for others I guess I will have to
> > put up with it. But I will not do so silently.
>
> I have great respect for other people. However I will not
> collude in deceit.

But you're not deceiving anyone. Those who believe I am right will
continue to do so. Those who believe I am wrong will also continue to do
so.

Therefore the *only* issue on the table is your refusal to respect another
person's wishes.

That makes you wrong.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on
"mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
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> Are you suggesting that folk ignore the sort of illogical
> silliness you are spouting in order to be regarded as
> decent human beings? Isn't that sort of lethargy how the
> great scourges were allowed to flourish?

I am suggesting nothing more than decency and respect. Do *you* want to be
respected..? If so this is the time and place to start.

Ivor


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
> news:JG0Gg.15122$rP1.3032(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au
>
> [snip]
>
>> Youe wishes don't make sense. Help me to understand.
>
> You don't have to understand. You just have to have some respect for
> others.

One can have respect for someone who holds a view based on sound principles
and practice. But you've changed your position so it's difficult to believe
that you have any priciples.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:veWdnZyFyOlfFnXZRVnyjA(a)bt.com
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ReOdnVsq8o--FHXZRVnyjw(a)bt.com
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> Your ethnic origin is at the crux of this conversation
>>>> and is something that everyone can see when meeting
>>>> you face to face.
>>>
>>> Right. So if you meet someone from Australia or the US
>>> face to face and they don't say anything to give you a
>>> clue from their accent, or do anything else that might
>>> give them away, you can still tell where they're from,
>>> can you..?
>>
>> I can identify their ethnic origin.
>
> How..? Let's say that two white males are walking along the street in
> front of you. Brown hair, blue or brown eyes, say 6ft tall. Both
> dressed in the usual jeans/t-shirt or whatever. Neither speak or do
> anything at all. How can you tell their origin..?

They're both European.