From: Mark Foster on
In article <fNydnVKWru_wMnXZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com>,
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:14mdnavQzPrDNXXZnZ2dnUVZ8tednZ2d(a)bt.com
> >> Ivor Jones wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>> How..? Let's say that two white males are walking along
> >>> the street in front of you. Brown hair, blue or brown
> >>> eyes, say 6ft tall. Both dressed in the usual
> >>> jeans/t-shirt or whatever. Neither speak or do anything
> >>> at all. How can you tell their origin..?
> >>
> >> They're both European.
> >
> > Why might they not be American or Australian..? I personally know two
> > Americans that fit that description.
>
> However, their lineage is European, the same as yours.

Wrong! If you're going to start down that road then their lineage is
ultimately African, the same as all of us.

Just for the record, like Ivor, I am not European either. Personally, I
consider myself to be English.

--
"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
[Driving, HMSO]
From: Ivor Jones on


"Richard Brookman"
<THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in
message news:4krk9eFdhe7sU1(a)individual.net
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > > "Richard Brookman"
> > > <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in
> > > message news:4krhg2Fdc7inU1(a)individual.net
> > > > Brimstone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Your ethnic origin is at the crux of this
> > > > > > conversation and is something that everyone can
> > > > > > see when meeting you face to face.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't give him another category to start
> > > > denying things. European is not a race nor an
> > > > ethnic group, it describes a geographical area. His ethnic origin
> > > > (assuming he is white Essex boy
> > > > with Welsh ancestry, although I stand to be
> > > > corrected on that) is Caucasian. He's still a
> > > > European, geographically speaking.
> > >
> > > Wrong.
> > >
> > > Ivor
>
> What have I said in the above post that is factually
> incorrect?

You have said I am a European. That is factually incorrect.

The fact that *you* don't understand *why* it is incorrect is neither here
nor there.

Ivor



From: Ivor Jones on
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z76dnc5GefPmKXXZRVnyjA(a)bt.com

[snip]

> Why do you not want to be called something that you are?

Because I am not what you believe me to be.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on
"Rob Morley" <nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f52c82e4fa52e2398a5aa(a)news.individual.net

[snip]

> If you have nothing to discuss why have you made so many
> posts?

Just defending myself. When they stop insulting me, I'll stop defending
myself against those insults.

Oh just in case you don't think it's an insult, that's irrelevant. I do.

Ivor


From: Richard Brookman on
Ivor Jones wrote:

||| OK, so we won't call you a Brit or a Euro.
||
|| Just as well. I thought a Euro was a funny sort of currency,
|| anyway..?

Aha! Perhaps a clue to the Stubborn One's resistance to being called
European?

--
Rich (anti-EU, but European by birth, nationality, culture and choice)
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