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From: Alex Heney on 20 Aug 2006 18:28 On 20 Aug 2006 09:12:00 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Alex Heney (me8(a)privacy.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >saying : > >>>> So you don't believe there is such a thing as an American > >>>Poor example, seeing as there's a country called America. > >> Where is that then? > >Straight on at Ireland. > >> I'm not aware of one. >> >> I suspect the country you are thinking of is the country called "The >> United States of America". > >Commonly referred to as America It shouldn't be. And it always annoys me when it is. >- and residents of said country being known >as "United Statesians?" No. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Pobody's Nerfect! To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Mark Foster on 20 Aug 2006 18:29 In article <z_SdnSGCHIJlQnXZRVny2w(a)bt.com>, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Mark Foster wrote: > > In article <tNadnRQpTshcI3XZRVnyjw(a)bt.com>, > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Mark Foster wrote: > >>> In article <fNydnVKWru_wMnXZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, > >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ivor Jones wrote: > >>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:14mdnavQzPrDNXXZnZ2dnUVZ8tednZ2d(a)bt.com > >>>>>> Ivor Jones wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> [snip] > >>>>> > >>>>>>> How..? Let's say that two white males are walking along > >>>>>>> the street in front of you. Brown hair, blue or brown > >>>>>>> eyes, say 6ft tall. Both dressed in the usual > >>>>>>> jeans/t-shirt or whatever. Neither speak or do anything > >>>>>>> at all. How can you tell their origin..? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They're both European. > >>>>> > >>>>> Why might they not be American or Australian..? I personally know > >>>>> two Americans that fit that description. > >>>> > >>>> However, their lineage is European, the same as yours. > >>> > >>> Wrong! If you're going to start down that road then their lineage is > >>> ultimately African, the same as all of us. > >>> > >>> Just for the record, like Ivor, I am not European either. > >>> Personally, I consider myself to be English. > >> > >> I also also consider myself English, but I'm still British and > >> European. > > > > Why don't you consider yourself African? > > Because there is nothing about my physical or cultural make up to suggest > that I am African. However, your lineage is African. Or are you now suggesting that lineage is irrelevant? -- "There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'" [Driving, HMSO]
From: Alex Heney on 20 Aug 2006 18:30 On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:09:01 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > >"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >news:5jefe2tsqltf4tmb71n6ag44gjr8v5cbht(a)4ax.com >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:05:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones" >> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >> >> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:He6dnWUtrqQf-3rZRVnyig(a)bt.com >> > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >> > > news:4kp6lrFda5s5U1(a)individual.net... >> > >> > [snip] >> > >> > > So you know better than the Oxford English Dictionary? >> > >> > I don't live my life defined by a dictionary. >> >> No, but the words you use are defined either by a >> dictionary, or by common usage where that has not yet >> been incorporated. >> >> On either count, you are using the word incorrectly. > >Which particular word..? I don't care except for one specific word, >European. That word does not and never will apply to me. It is that particular word, I'm afraid. All dictionaries, and common usage would disagree with your usage of it. Do you actually believe the word has any meaning at all? And if it does, then what? And please don't just say "irrelevant", that is just being stupid for the sake of it. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot them? To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 18:34 Mark Foster wrote: > In article <z_SdnSGCHIJlQnXZRVny2w(a)bt.com>, > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Mark Foster wrote: >>> In article <tNadnRQpTshcI3XZRVnyjw(a)bt.com>, >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Mark Foster wrote: >>>>> In article <fNydnVKWru_wMnXZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, >>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ivor Jones wrote: >>>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:14mdnavQzPrDNXXZnZ2dnUVZ8tednZ2d(a)bt.com >>>>>>>> Ivor Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How..? Let's say that two white males are walking along >>>>>>>>> the street in front of you. Brown hair, blue or brown >>>>>>>>> eyes, say 6ft tall. Both dressed in the usual >>>>>>>>> jeans/t-shirt or whatever. Neither speak or do anything >>>>>>>>> at all. How can you tell their origin..? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They're both European. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why might they not be American or Australian..? I personally >>>>>>> know two Americans that fit that description. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, their lineage is European, the same as yours. >>>>> >>>>> Wrong! If you're going to start down that road then their lineage >>>>> is ultimately African, the same as all of us. >>>>> >>>>> Just for the record, like Ivor, I am not European either. >>>>> Personally, I consider myself to be English. >>>> >>>> I also also consider myself English, but I'm still British and >>>> European. >>> >>> Why don't you consider yourself African? >> >> Because there is nothing about my physical or cultural make up to >> suggest that I am African. > > However, your lineage is African. Or are you now suggesting that > lineage is irrelevant? My lineage etec is not the topic of this sub-thread.
From: Alex Heney on 20 Aug 2006 18:37
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:50:30 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: <snip> > >I have asked you to please stop calling me what I do not wish to be >called. That should be enough, regardless of your personal opinion. > the problem is that you haven't just asked people to not refer to you as European. You have stated that you aren't one. If all you said was that you don't like to be referred to as European, I am sure most people would respect your wishes. But insisting that not only do you not want to be referred to that way, but that you actually aren't one is offensive to most of the other people posting here. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Terminal glare: A look that kills... To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |