From: Mark Foster on
In article <aP2dnRCFLLAmc3XZRVnyjQ(a)bt.com>,
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Mark Foster wrote:
> > In article <YW5Gg.15202$rP1.5353(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Mark Foster" <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST(a)sussex.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST-A04131.20295220082006(a)no-dns-yet-212-23-3-119.
> >> zen
> >> .co.uk...
> >>>
> >>> Just for the record, like Ivor, I am not European either.
> >>> Personally, I consider myself to be English.
> >>
> >> Then you are also European.
> >
> > No, I'm English.
> >
> >> Tell me, will you take the discount for European customers? Or will
> >> you pay full price?
> >
> > I'll take the European discount because being English, I'm not stupid.
>
> That would be fraud.

No it wouldn't. They said I was European, not me. Would you take the
African discount? After all, you're entitled to it?

--
"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
[Driving, HMSO]
From: Ivor Jones on


"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9825D8878F5B7adrianachapmanfreeis(a)204.153.244.170
> Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily,
> sounding much like they were saying :
>
> > I'm insulted by your gratuitous use of foul language.
>
> You're insulted by quite a lot of things, Ivor.

Mostly by people with no respect.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:XbqdndHArPPGXnXZRVnytg(a)bt.com
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:mq6dnQFcQcnfInXZnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d(a)bt.com
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:z76dnc5GefPmKXXZRVnyjA(a)bt.com
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > Why do you not want to be called something that
> > > > > you are?
> > > >
> > > > Because I am not what you believe me to be.
> > >
> > > What do you believe I believe you to be?
> >
> > A European, of course. But then you knew that.
>
> So if you're not European, from which continent or other
> geographic region of the world do your forebears
> originate?

Irrelevant. Whether they are or were European or not does not mean I am.

You may think otherwise, but you'd be wrong.

Once again, I ask you to have respect for my wishes and beliefs. Show that
you have *some* regard for others.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on

"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
news:asohe2di4t74ucf4mmsg4668b9smnai4do(a)4ax.com

[snip]

> You have stated that you aren't one.

Correct.

> If all you said was that you don't like to be referred to
> as European, I am sure most people would respect your
> wishes.
>
> But insisting that not only do you not want to be
> referred to that way, but that you actually aren't one is
> offensive to most of the other people posting here.

Oh dear. I've offended someone. Now isn't that so awful. I'm sure nobody
else here does that.

I am not a European. I am so terribly sorry that you don't like that fact.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
news:kgohe25fspitor47vflf3h8t7esrn6j3bb(a)4ax.com
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:09:01 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:5jefe2tsqltf4tmb71n6ag44gjr8v5cbht(a)4ax.com
> > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:05:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> > > <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:He6dnWUtrqQf-3rZRVnyig(a)bt.com
> > > > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in
> > > > > message news:4kp6lrFda5s5U1(a)individual.net...
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > So you know better than the Oxford English
> > > > > Dictionary?
> > > >
> > > > I don't live my life defined by a dictionary.
> > >
> > > No, but the words you use are defined either by a
> > > dictionary, or by common usage where that has not yet
> > > been incorporated.
> > >
> > > On either count, you are using the word incorrectly.
> >
> > Which particular word..? I don't care except for one
> > specific word, European. That word does not and never
> > will apply to me.
>
> It is that particular word, I'm afraid.

What are you afraid of..?

> All dictionaries, and common usage would disagree with
> your usage of it.

I'm so upset.

> Do you actually believe the word has any meaning at all?

Of course.

> And if it does, then what?

It means pertaining to or relating to Europe. I am not of Europe nor do I
pertain or relate to it.

> And please don't just say "irrelevant", that is just
> being stupid for the sake of it.

If I use the word irrelevant, it is because I find it the most effective
word for what I want to say.

Ivor