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From: Mark Foster on 20 Aug 2006 19:25 In article <aP2dnRCFLLAmc3XZRVnyjQ(a)bt.com>, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Mark Foster wrote: > > In article <YW5Gg.15202$rP1.5353(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>, > > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote: > > > >> "Mark Foster" <m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST(a)sussex.ac.uk> wrote in message > >> news:m.e.fosterREMOVEMEFIRST-A04131.20295220082006(a)no-dns-yet-212-23-3-119. > >> zen > >> .co.uk... > >>> > >>> Just for the record, like Ivor, I am not European either. > >>> Personally, I consider myself to be English. > >> > >> Then you are also European. > > > > No, I'm English. > > > >> Tell me, will you take the discount for European customers? Or will > >> you pay full price? > > > > I'll take the European discount because being English, I'm not stupid. > > That would be fraud. No it wouldn't. They said I was European, not me. Would you take the African discount? After all, you're entitled to it? -- "There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'" [Driving, HMSO]
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 17:07 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9825D8878F5B7adrianachapmanfreeis(a)204.153.244.170 > Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, > sounding much like they were saying : > > > I'm insulted by your gratuitous use of foul language. > > You're insulted by quite a lot of things, Ivor. Mostly by people with no respect. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 17:08 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:XbqdndHArPPGXnXZRVnytg(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:mq6dnQFcQcnfInXZnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d(a)bt.com > > > Ivor Jones wrote: > > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:z76dnc5GefPmKXXZRVnyjA(a)bt.com > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > Why do you not want to be called something that > > > > > you are? > > > > > > > > Because I am not what you believe me to be. > > > > > > What do you believe I believe you to be? > > > > A European, of course. But then you knew that. > > So if you're not European, from which continent or other > geographic region of the world do your forebears > originate? Irrelevant. Whether they are or were European or not does not mean I am. You may think otherwise, but you'd be wrong. Once again, I ask you to have respect for my wishes and beliefs. Show that you have *some* regard for others. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 18:43 "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:asohe2di4t74ucf4mmsg4668b9smnai4do(a)4ax.com [snip] > You have stated that you aren't one. Correct. > If all you said was that you don't like to be referred to > as European, I am sure most people would respect your > wishes. > > But insisting that not only do you not want to be > referred to that way, but that you actually aren't one is > offensive to most of the other people posting here. Oh dear. I've offended someone. Now isn't that so awful. I'm sure nobody else here does that. I am not a European. I am so terribly sorry that you don't like that fact. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 18:45
"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:kgohe25fspitor47vflf3h8t7esrn6j3bb(a)4ax.com > On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:09:01 +0100, "Ivor Jones" > <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > > news:5jefe2tsqltf4tmb71n6ag44gjr8v5cbht(a)4ax.com > > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:05:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones" > > > <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:He6dnWUtrqQf-3rZRVnyig(a)bt.com > > > > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in > > > > > message news:4kp6lrFda5s5U1(a)individual.net... > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > So you know better than the Oxford English > > > > > Dictionary? > > > > > > > > I don't live my life defined by a dictionary. > > > > > > No, but the words you use are defined either by a > > > dictionary, or by common usage where that has not yet > > > been incorporated. > > > > > > On either count, you are using the word incorrectly. > > > > Which particular word..? I don't care except for one > > specific word, European. That word does not and never > > will apply to me. > > It is that particular word, I'm afraid. What are you afraid of..? > All dictionaries, and common usage would disagree with > your usage of it. I'm so upset. > Do you actually believe the word has any meaning at all? Of course. > And if it does, then what? It means pertaining to or relating to Europe. I am not of Europe nor do I pertain or relate to it. > And please don't just say "irrelevant", that is just > being stupid for the sake of it. If I use the word irrelevant, it is because I find it the most effective word for what I want to say. Ivor |