From: Ivor Jones on


"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:07:12 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel(a)lineone.net> wrote in message
> > news:ro9fe2lft5h14ol1jqc4ddhf06c1o5ie4r(a)4ax.com
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Could it be that you are "defined" even better by the
> > > phrase "illiterate fuckwit"?
> >
> > Ah, the foul language argument again.
> >
> > Do you still not get it..? As soon as you start
> > swearing to make your point, you immediately become
> > completely and totally wrong, even if you weren't to
> > start with.
> >
>
> That statement is totally, utterly wrong.
>
> The language used does not alter the validity of the
> point AT ALL.

It does, purely and simply because it shows the user of the swear word to
be intellectually incapable of making a point without such usage. That in
itself is enough to convince me that they are wrong. If they were right,
they would be able to argue their point without swearing.

> Incidentally, most people would not consider the word
> "fuckwit" to be swearing, even though the first four
> letters by themselves would be a swear word.


From: Ivor Jones on

"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

> The fact that *you* don't understand *why* (you think) it
> is incorrect is presumably also irrelevant.
>
> Actually, you seem to think that anything which might
> explain why you think that way is irrelevant.

Perhaps because it is..?

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on
"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:52:21 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

> > I do not relate to the
> > continent known as Europe, therefore I cannot be a
> > European.
> >
>
> Of course you "relate" to it.

I most certainly do not.

Ivor

>
> You were born in that continent (unless you consider the
> continent of Europe to only be the main land mass, and
> not to include the outlying islands such as Great
> Britain).
>
> And you live in that continent.

I most certainly do not. I live in a country that is in it, but that is a
different thing. So terribly sorry that you don't like it.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on
"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

> NOBODY has claimed that at any time.
>
> Which is hardly surprising. there is no "nation" of
> Europe, so there cannot be a nationality of European.

Correct.

> But there is a geographical place called Europe. So you
> can be a native of Europe.

No. I am a native of my country, not the continent that country is a part
of.

> And a native of Europe is a european, whether they like
> it or not.

No. See above.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on

"Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

> You have never explained it except by stating falsehoods
> (such as stating that you can only be a "native" of a
> "country").

You say it is a falsehood. I say it isn't.

I am still not a European and you will never make me one.

Ivor