From: Ivor Jones on


"mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
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> Why are you trying to impose your views on others. Why
> are you dictating that they should bottom post? That is
> grossly insulting to me.

I'm not dictating it at all. It is simply convention in the majority of
groups, including this one. People can top post all they like, it just
means I won't give their posts the same consideration.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4krnqfFddtn2U2(a)individual.net...
>
> >
> > It is perfectly possible to live in Europe without
> > being a European.
>
> Will you concede that, in some circumstances, a simple
> geographical description, for instance, the description
> of European describes everyone who lives in Europe?

Yes, if the person concerned agrees.

Otherwise, no.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4krr1vFdibckU1(a)individual.net...
> >
> >
> > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
> > news:Qm0Gg.15118$rP1.4096(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au
> > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:4krglfFdcosjU1(a)individual.net...
> > > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:neKdnfSLJad-FnXZRVnyrw(a)bt.com
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > > > > What insult is being levelled at you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You know perfectly well. You are calling me a
> > > > > > European and I have asked you not to. It doesn't
> > > > > > matter if you don't understand why I consider
> > > > > > it an insult, merely that you know I do.
> > > > >
> > > > > So tell us why you consider it an insult.
> > > >
> > > > Why does someone from Pakistan consider being
> > > > called a "Paki" an insult..? I don't know, but they
> > > > do and I would never dream of insulting someone
> > > > from that country in such a way.
> > >
> > > Erm...they don't actually, Ivor. British people of
> > > Pakistani origin may find it insulting due to the way
> > > it is used, but here, in Australia, they are called
> > > Pakis all the time with no problems whatsoever. Hell,
> > > even Richie Benaud calls them Pakis during cricket
> > > commentary.
> >
> > I am not in Australia. Please don't assume people
> > worldwide share your beliefs. For you, being in England
> > may well be being European, but for me, here, it isn't.
> > Why can't (or won't) you accept that..?
>
> Because you have offered no explanation as to why. Make a
> sound, logical (or emotional, if you like) argument and
> I'll simply agree to disagree.

I don't have to offer an explanation. I have actually done so, but you
refuse to accept it, in exactly the same way I refuse to accept being
called a European.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Ivor


From: Ivor Jones on


"mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4krng1Fdi03cU1(a)individual.net...
> > "mattic" <this(a)wontwork.com> wrote in message
> > news:JG0Gg.15124$rP1.14753(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au
> >
> > > Are you suggesting that folk ignore the sort of
> > > illogical silliness you are spouting in order to be
> > > regarded as decent human beings? Isn't that sort of
> > > lethargy how the great scourges were allowed to
> > > flourish?
> >
> > I am suggesting nothing more than decency and respect.
> > Do *you* want to be respected..? If so this is the time
> > and place to start.
>
> I'll earn my respect by being right, thanks. Oh, and by
> trampling stupidity and ignorance wherever I find it.

You're not right, so you earn no respect.

> You're right, this is a very good time and place to start.

You first.

Ivor


From: Rob Morley on
In article <4krrpnFdl0laU1(a)individual.net>
Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
> "Rob Morley" <nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1f52c82e4fa52e2398a5aa(a)news.individual.net
>
> [snip]
>
> > If you have nothing to discuss why have you made so many
> > posts?
>
> Just defending myself. When they stop insulting me, I'll stop defending
> myself against those insults.
>
> Oh just in case you don't think it's an insult, that's irrelevant. I do.
>
I find it insulting that you find it insulting to be told that you're a
European.