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From: Ivor Jones on 21 Aug 2006 04:39 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Eb-dnXlS_u_K-3TZnZ2dnUVZ8tednZ2d(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:8LidnaFbDoesx3TZRVnyhA(a)bt.com > > > > [snip] > > > > > It's got nothing to do with likes and dislikes, it's a > > > simple matter of what is or is not. > > > > And who decides what is or is not..? You..? I don't > > think so. > > It determined at birth, if not before. It is not a matter > of choice or decision. It is exactly that. > > > > *I* decide as far as I'm concerned. > > Did you decide your gender or the colour of your hair or > of your skin? No. But those aren't under discussion. You are deciding for me what I am. You do not have that right. You are trying to absolve yourself of responsibility by saying it is not a matter of choice, but you are still making decisions you have no right to make. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 21 Aug 2006 04:41 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wtadnWfqhuAQ-HTZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:B9idnWE6dYVQxXTZnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)bt.com > > > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message > > > news:4ksbd3Fd6cjpU18(a)individual.net... > > > > > > > I don't have to offer an explanation. I have > > > > actually done so, but you refuse to accept it, in > > > > exactly the same way I refuse to accept being > > > > called a European. > > > > > > You have given no explanation as to why your are not > > > European. Please feel free to do so. > > > > I have done so. Ad nauseum. You refuse to accept my > > explanation. Your problem. > > No you haven't, you've only said what you are not. Yes I have, but you refuse to accept it. Ivor
From: Ivor Jones on 21 Aug 2006 04:46 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:l5OdnfB62Y38-HTZRVnyjQ(a)bt.com [snip] > I haven't insulted you in any way, shape or form. I'm > trying to understand what it is about you that is not > European. You *have* insulted me by calling me a European ..! The fact that you don't understand why I regard it as an insult really is irrelevant. All I am asking is that you stop calling me a European, ok..? You can think and genuinely believe I am one all you like, just stop calling me it. Please. Ivor
From: Brimstone on 21 Aug 2006 05:02 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:l5OdnfB62Y38-HTZRVnyjQ(a)bt.com > > [snip] > >> I haven't insulted you in any way, shape or form. I'm >> trying to understand what it is about you that is not >> European. > > You *have* insulted me by calling me a European ..! The fact that you > don't understand why I regard it as an insult really is irrelevant. The fact that you claim not to be a European is very relevant. Until you provide evidence to the contrary there is no reason to beileve you are not. > All I am asking is that you stop calling me a European, ok..? You can > think and genuinely believe I am one all you like, just stop calling > me it. Why should anyone not call you what you are? Do you object to being called a man?
From: Brimstone on 21 Aug 2006 05:04
Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:wtadnWfqhuAQ-HTZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:B9idnWE6dYVQxXTZnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)bt.com >>>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:4ksbd3Fd6cjpU18(a)individual.net... >>>> >>>>> I don't have to offer an explanation. I have >>>>> actually done so, but you refuse to accept it, in >>>>> exactly the same way I refuse to accept being >>>>> called a European. >>>> >>>> You have given no explanation as to why your are not >>>> European. Please feel free to do so. >>> >>> I have done so. Ad nauseum. You refuse to accept my >>> explanation. Your problem. >> >> No you haven't, you've only said what you are not. > > Yes I have, but you refuse to accept it. You've said you were born in England of a Welsh father. That's only part of the picture. Complete that and I expect the questions will stop. |