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From: David Taylor on 21 Aug 2006 07:40 On 2006-08-21, Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:wtadnWfqhuAQ-HTZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >>> >>> I have done so. Ad nauseum. You refuse to accept my >>> explanation. Your problem. >> >> No you haven't, you've only said what you are not. > > Yes I have, but you refuse to accept it. Do you think that most people would initially _believe_ you were European, if they knew everything there was to know about you (excluding your dislike of being described as European)? -- David Taylor
From: Morris Finsbury on 21 Aug 2006 09:54 "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message > I'm a UK resident not a European resident. Do you have a passport? What does it say on the front, at the top, in gold, friendly letters?
From: Mike on 21 Aug 2006 11:20 "Morris Finsbury" <qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba(a)zfa.pbz> wrote in message news:44e9bb28$0$1391$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... > "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message > > > I'm a UK resident not a European resident. > > Do you have a passport? > > What does it say on the front, at the top, in gold, friendly letters? > > and what does it say in bold, just above the crest which is right in the middle? UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND and below that PASSPORT and in very small print at the top european union and on the next page just inside the cover ... Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hinderance ...... etc etc etc etc I am English first and foremost British next .. .. .. then somewhere down the line european I served Her Majesty under the White Ensign If you have problems with that, what is your country of birth? Mike -- -------------------------------------- Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com
From: Brimstone on 21 Aug 2006 11:23 "Mike" <not(a)here.thanks> wrote in message news:Rf-dnVLu3JaeUnTZnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > "Morris Finsbury" <qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba(a)zfa.pbz> wrote in message > news:44e9bb28$0$1391$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... >> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >> >> > I'm a UK resident not a European resident. >> >> Do you have a passport? >> >> What does it say on the front, at the top, in gold, friendly letters? >> >> > > and what does it say in bold, just above the crest which is right in the > middle? > > UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND > > and below that > > PASSPORT > > and in very small print at the top > > european union > > and on the next page just inside the cover ... > > Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the > Name > of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass > freely without let or hinderance ...... etc etc etc etc > > I am English first and foremost > > British next > . > then somewhere down the line > > european > > I served Her Majesty under the White Ensign > > If you have problems with that, what is your country of birth? No one has a problem with that, except "Ivor Jones".
From: Christian McArdle on 21 Aug 2006 11:31
> Because a continent is not a country. I am defined by my country of birth > not my continent of residence. You are defined by millions of things. You are defined by the colour of your eyes and hair. You are defined by your personality type. You are defined by your place of birth. You are defined by your nationality. And, I'm afraid, you are defined by the continent of your residence, whether you like it or not. However, you can no more claim not to be European than you can claim to have three legs, just because you say so. You are demonstrably (correct me if I'm wrong) resident in Europe and born in Europe. This makes you a European. Cry all you like, but it isn't going to change, unless, possibly in some people's eyes, you move to a different continent for several decades. You can't unilaterally opt out, I'm afraid, any more that you can opt out of being classified as human instead of a giraffe. Christian. |